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Some Observations on The Airliner Plot
Topic Started: Aug 12 2006, 07:23 AM (291 Views)
Rick Zimmer
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Some lessons to be learned from this weeks foiled plot.

1. Bush's argument that democracy is the antidote to terrorism is obviously wrong. Those arrested are, for the most part, long time British citizens. Add this to the fact that those who undetrook the bombings in London last summer were also British citizens and obviously the idea that if a country is a democracy it will not produce terrorists is proven wrong.

2. Surveillance can be done legally and constitutionally using warrants issued by a court. No illegal means as advocated by Bush and his team are needed.

3. Obviously, Iraq is not the central front of the war on terrorism. Give this plot and the various terrorist plots and acts since we invaded and occupied Iraq show that the terrorists continue to plot and implement their strategy. Iraq has not slowed this down one bitt.

4. Pakistan's arrest of a those linked to Al Quaeda in Afghanistan shows how just how wrong Bush was to change the focus of the US from pursuing Al Quaeda in Afghanistan so he could fulfill his pre-9/11 dream of overthrowing Hussein.

5. For national security purposes and for the safety of the public, this country's human and financial resources would have been and still would be better spent on spies and police work, not regime change and nation building in Iraq.
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Mikhailoh
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Some observations on your observations:

1. So wrong it gives wrong a bad name.

2. Wrong in that the basic premise that it refutes is nonexistent.

3. See #2.

4. See #3.

5. Wrong.
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Larry
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Rick is a troll. If you put all his posts into a book it would read like a terrorist propaganda piece.

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Larry
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5. For national security purposes and for the safety of the public, this country's human and financial resources would have been and still would be better spent on spies and police work, not regime change and nation building in Iraq.


An even better use of resources for providing for our national security and the safety of the public would be to put every single leftwing nutjob who thinks the way you do on a plane to Cuba.

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Allen Roland, who hosts a radio talk show sees something more sinister.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_al..._the_cheney.htm

DEBUNKING THE CHENEY/BUSH MYTHS


by Allen L Roland


http://www.opednews.com

" Bush's war on terror was a sham from the start . Its objective was never to eliminate the ' evil doers ' ~ its objective was to create an Orwellian ' never ending war ' which would fit nicely into a planned Cheney/Bush neo-conservative agenda and reap profits for all of Bush's corporate cronies and political donors:" Allen L Roland

The Cheney/Bush administration is in full attack, after the defeat of its lapdog Joe Lieberman, and once again resorting to its Orwellian strategy of defining failure as a success.

Leading the attack is Darth Vader himself, Dick Cheney with his familiar patriotic blather and script ~ " Lieberman's defeat is disturbing since al Qaeda types... clearly are betting on the proposition that ultimately they can break the will of the American people."

WHAT A CROCK ! When is America finally going to see through this mirage of success in Iraq and finally see the truth of this absurd neocon exercise of hubris and self deception.

But fortunately we have organizations like the Center For American Progress who are more than capable of debunking the many ongoing myths of the most corrupt administration in American history. This is a short must read report.

Allen L Roland
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Mikhailoh
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If we posted something Rush Limbaugh said on the air, it would be laughed off the forum, just as this bit of entertainer fluff should be.
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Jeffrey
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Rick Re: 1 - No, hate-filled Islam is the problem

Re: 2 - Well, if we pass the Patriot Act and make eavesdropping and required passenger lists legal, they we aren't breaking the law, now are we?

I will also add that I have no problem torturing these people, to get further information on who helped them.
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Rick Zimmer
Aug 12 2006, 11:23 AM
Some lessons to be learned from this weeks foiled plot.

1. Bush's argument that democracy is the antidote to terrorism is obviously wrong. Those arrested are, for the most part, long time British citizens. Add this to the fact that those who undetrook the bombings in London last summer were also British citizens and obviously the idea that if a country is a democracy it will not produce terrorists is proven wrong.

2. Surveillance can be done legally and constitutionally using warrants issued by a court. No illegal means as advocated by Bush and his team are needed.

3. Obviously, Iraq is not the central front of the war on terrorism. Give this plot and the various terrorist plots and acts since we invaded and occupied Iraq show that the terrorists continue to plot and implement their strategy. Iraq has not slowed this down one bitt.

4. Pakistan's arrest of a those linked to Al Quaeda in Afghanistan shows how just how wrong Bush was to change the focus of the US from pursuing Al Quaeda in Afghanistan so he could fulfill his pre-9/11 dream of overthrowing Hussein.

5. For national security purposes and for the safety of the public, this country's human and financial resources would have been and still would be better spent on spies and police work, not regime change and nation building in Iraq.

Rick,

Can't you just say, "The fact that this plot was foiled, is a great victory in the War on Terror?"
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