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| Joe Lieberman Jumps Ship | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 3 2006, 09:15 AM (272 Views) | |
| George K | Jul 3 2006, 09:15 AM Post #1 |
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Lieberman To Start Petition Drive Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman is to announce today he will petition for a place on the November ballot as an "independent Democrat," giving him a chance to stay alive politically should he lose an Aug. 8 primary for the Democratic nomination. Lieberman, 64, a three-term senator whose outspoken support of the war in Iraq has brought months of grief and inspired a strong primary challenge from Greenwich businessman Ned Lamont, intends to announce his decision this afternoon at the State Capitol. Even should he lose in August -- and the most recent public poll shows him leading Lamont by 15-percentage points among likely primary voters -- Lieberman would retain his status as a registered Democrat, but his name would not appear on the ballot line with other Democrats. Lieberman began making courtesy calls to leading Democrats late this morning. Most other Democratic candidates already have said they would support the winner of the Aug. 8 primary. For months, Lieberman has refused to rule out running as petitioning candidate should he lose the primary, though he said recently he would not withdraw from the primary under any circumstances. Lieberman will need to gather 7,500 signatures to guarantee a ballot place, an effort likely to begin next week. Lamont, 52, the founder of a cable-television company, has contributed $1.5 million of his own money to his campaign. Lamont also has raised hundreds of thousands of dollar in small donations, mostly over the Internet. His candidacy has been widely supported by a network of local and national Web logs. And, of course, the tolerant left has this comment: http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/07/03/brea...ent-at-1-pm-et/
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| Nina | Jul 3 2006, 09:42 AM Post #2 |
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Senior Carp
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What is an "independent Democrat"? Unless he's renouncing the Democratic party, then he's a Democrat. This is hardly jumping ship. It's pure politics to make sure he remains on the ballot: "giving him a chance to stay alive politically should he lose an Aug. 8 primary for the Democratic nomination." If he decides to run as a capital-I Independent, then perhaps you can discuss his watercraft. |
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| Mikhailoh | Jul 3 2006, 09:43 AM Post #3 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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One of the few Dems I would consider voting for. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Jolly | Jul 3 2006, 11:40 AM Post #4 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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An independent Democrat? Actually, an Independent...but Joe's no shmoe as a politician...by framing it thus, I'd assume he can make a decent case for retention of committeeships and pecking order...unless the GOP makes him a better deal. |
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| Mikhailoh | Jul 3 2006, 01:32 PM Post #5 |
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No.. it should have been Lieberman/Gore. Joe is a very capable man, IMO, and much more a statesman and public servant than many others on the national front. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Rick Zimmer | Jul 3 2006, 05:34 PM Post #6 |
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Fulla-Carp
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It would be a shame if the Democratic caucus in the Senate lost Libermann's voice. I think he adds a perspective the Democrats need. In fact, if I lived in Connecticut, I would likely vote for him just for this reason. However, if he does lose, I think he has only himself to blame. Too often, rather than expressing a strong defense posture and a strong reaction to terrorism posture, he has opted to express a position in support of Bush's way of dealing with things. In doing so, he has added to the polarization of the issue -- as if there is only Bush's way or no way -- whereas he could have taken the lead to find a middle ground. |
| [size=4]Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul -- Benedict XVI[/size] | |
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| Larry | Jul 3 2006, 05:39 PM Post #7 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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That's because of two things, Rick - Bush's way of dealing with things is the right way to do it, and your side *has* no plan. |
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| George K | Jul 3 2006, 05:46 PM Post #8 |
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Sit down Rick... I agree with you. What I find really interesting is some (most) of the left wing blogs being critical of Lieberman. I've seen words such as "traitor" "defector" and worse. Interesting that I didn't see such outrage when Jeffords stepped to the independent column. |
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| Rick Zimmer | Jul 3 2006, 07:18 PM Post #9 |
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Fulla-Carp
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Ya' know, George. It's unfortunate, but both parties do this. And to the detriment of the parties themselves as well as the political structure of the nation. |
| [size=4]Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul -- Benedict XVI[/size] | |
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| jon-nyc | Jul 3 2006, 11:20 PM Post #10 |
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Cheers
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He's unlikely to lose the primary. This is just an insurance policy. |
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| Rick Zimmer | Jul 4 2006, 06:00 AM Post #11 |
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Fulla-Carp
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It probably is not even an insurance policy. It is more likely campaign strategy -- become the underdog even when you are 15 points ahead. |
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| George K | Jul 6 2006, 04:59 AM Post #12 |
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Kennedy Dismisses Lieberman as ‘a JFK Conservative’ by Scott Ott (2006-07-06) — In another sign of lukewarm support from his own party for Sen. Joseph Lieberman’s reelection campaign, Massachusetts Sen. Edward M. Kennedy today branded the Connecticut incumbent as “a J.F.K. conservative, a relic of another era.” “I’m not sure we need someone in the Senate who’s still mired in the provincial, hawkish John F. Kennedy ideas about U.S. military power,” said Sen. Kennedy. “But if he wins the primary, I’ll show my party loyalty by refraining from campaigning against him openly.” Meanwhile, Democrat National Committee Chairperson Howard Dean said the national party, in cooperation with MoveOn.org, would fund a last-minute advertising blitz on local TV stations in which Sen. Lieberman’s face morphs into that of President Kennedy. “Let every candidate know,” Mr. Dean said, “whether he wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of the war on the war on terror.” |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| John D'Oh | Jul 6 2006, 05:04 AM Post #13 |
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MAMIL
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:lol: |
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| George K | Jul 6 2006, 05:08 AM Post #14 |
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I was waiting for someone to notice that. You never disappoint, John.
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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