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Did you do Forensics in school?
Yes 3 (20%)
No 7 (46.7%)
Say whut? 5 (33.3%)
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Forensics; debate, not bullets
Topic Started: Jun 17 2006, 07:06 PM (191 Views)
DivaDeb
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I did. I was good. My mother brought a box full of crud over that had my varsity letter in it and my pins and medals. I forgot I had boatloads of medals from forensics tournaments. Acting, poetry reading and debate.

Anybody else?
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Jolly
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Best actor in a few school plays....a few "superiors" at the state level in extemperaneous speaking and radio.

My varsity letters were in athletics...mostly football, but one in track (they let me chunk a used cannonball around...)

Otherwise, my old high school days were spent in the pursuit of agribusiness, show pigs, and girls - not in that order, but all were fun....
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dolmansaxlil
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I'm getting what you mean from the context, but I'm unfamiliar with the term forensics being used that way. Anyone care to elaborate?
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Mikhailoh
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Jolly, didn't you mean show girls and pigs? :lol:

Acting and debate (there was very little debate, just a small club but it was fun anyway)were probably the only things that kept me from dropping out of high school to do the Kerouac thing.. which I did between junior and senior year anyway. We did take some scenes to contest, but I don't remember much about it.
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DivaDeb
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dolmansaxlil
Jun 18 2006, 04:06 AM
I'm getting what you mean from the context, but I'm unfamiliar with the term forensics being used that way. Anyone care to elaborate?

National Forensic League
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dolmansaxlil
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Thanks for the link, Deb.

My highschool didn't have a debate team of any kind, though I think I would have enjoyed it. It doesn't seem be be as popular here as it is in the US (at least not in the rural schools - I'm sure the urban schools have more opportunities).
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DivaDeb
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as you probably gathered from the other posts in the thread, high school forensic tournaments include contests in acting, speech and poetry reading in addition to debate. It is a fun mix because it brings the artsy thespian element together with the brainy attorney types...they can stand to learn from each other.
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Mikhailoh
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Hmm.. artsy and brainy types mixing.. what place does that remind me of?
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DivaDeb
Jun 18 2006, 07:51 AM
the artsy thespian

Where's Crashtest????

Oh, nevermind.

Move along. I'm sorry to interrupt.
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DivaDeb
Jun 18 2006, 05:51 AM
as you probably gathered from the other posts in the thread, high school forensic tournaments include contests in acting, speech and poetry reading in addition to debate.  It is a fun mix because it brings the artsy thespian element together with the brainy attorney types...they can stand to learn from each other.

I'd never heard of this either, Deb, thanks for the link.So this is the 'other' NFL? :cool:

Debating clubs I've heard of, but they don't seem to be very popular. There are several private schools in this area that stress this kind of thing more, but I don't believe it is done on a competitive level.

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dolmansaxlil
Jun 18 2006, 05:06 AM
I'm getting what you mean from the context, but I'm unfamiliar with the term forensics being used that way.  Anyone care to elaborate?

Forensics is derived from the Latin forum, the city square where politicians and rhetoricians would hold forth. Therefore, the art of public debate.
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George K
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The word FORENSIC (1659) first appeared in print as a shortened form of ‘forensical’ (1581). It was based on the Latin ‘forensis,’ of or belonging to the ‘forum’ or place of assembly. The ‘forum’ was the marketplace or public square and place of assembly of an ancient Roman city. It was the center of judicial and business affairs were public matters were argued in the days of the Caesars. The original English sense, however, was “Pertaining to, connected with, or used in courts of law; suitable or analogous to pleadings in court.”

The adjective FORENSIC has come to have 3 main senses: 1) Relating to, used in, or appropriate for courts of law or for public discussion or argumentation. 2) Of, relating to, or used in debate or argument; rhetorical. 3) Relating to the use of science or technology in the investigation and establishment of facts or evidence in a court of law (e.g. a forensic laboratory, forensic ballistics, forensic chemistry, forensic medicine, forensic psychiatry).

But you asked about the noun FORENSICS which has two meanings. The first is the older meaning, which is argumentation or the art or study of formal debate. When I was in college (in prehistoric times) there was a ‘forensic society,’ which was another name for the debating club, and they practiced ‘forensics.’ The OED says it is a U.S. expression for a college exercise, consisting of a speech or (at Harvard) written thesis maintaining one side or the other of a given question.” The second meaning is the more modern one of the use of science and technology to investigate and establish facts in criminal or civil courts of law.
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dolmansaxlil
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sue
Jun 18 2006, 01:20 PM
DivaDeb
Jun 18 2006, 05:51 AM
as you probably gathered from the other posts in the thread, high school forensic tournaments include contests in acting, speech and poetry reading in addition to debate.  It is a fun mix because it brings the artsy thespian element together with the brainy attorney types...they can stand to learn from each other.

I'd never heard of this either, Deb, thanks for the link.So this is the 'other' NFL? :cool:

Debating clubs I've heard of, but they don't seem to be very popular. There are several private schools in this area that stress this kind of thing more, but I don't believe it is done on a competitive level.

Oh good. I was worried that I was just being totally ignorant on the topic. It appears that I may be right in saying that it's not a common term in Canada.
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Jolly
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Mikhailoh
Jun 18 2006, 06:14 AM
Jolly, didn't you mean show girls and pigs? :lol:

Acting and debate (there was very little debate, just a small club but it was fun anyway)were probably the only things that kept me from dropping out of high school to do the Kerouac thing.. which I did between junior and senior year anyway. We did take some scenes to contest, but I don't remember much about it.

No, sir!

I have driven to Missouri to buy show pigs. I have had show pigs shipped in from Wisconsin. When you are shooting for a state champion, (which I never made) you pull out as many stops as you can afford.

Good girls, and more importantly, bad girls, were much easier to find....
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i didn't do it until i was at university. and then it was part of a national mock trial tournament, where students around the country received the same case materials, and we prepared for competitions by writing opening statements, direct examinations, cross examinations (of the other team's witnesses), and closing arguments. real judges or attorneys judged our competitions.

it was fun because we developed communication skills and learned how to think on our feet. we never knew what line/direction the other teams would take with the case.

my teams from the university of south dakota always made it to the national tournament and performed well, even against the big schools like Princeton and Georgetown.

after i graduated, i also served as the professor's teaching assistant for one semester. that year one of our teams placed as high as 5th in the nation, and one student was selected for the all-star team.

great fun! i'm still friends with that professor, and steve and i are planning to see him in a couple of weeks for our trip to South Dakota.
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