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| QuirtEvans | Jun 16 2006, 10:59 AM Post #51 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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Impress you? You're barely on my radar screen. If you want to think that I don't know much about guns or the people that use them, that's your business. You are welcome to depart from reality as much as you like. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| ivorythumper | Jun 16 2006, 11:06 AM Post #52 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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Maybe if you had some remedial lessons you wouldn't hear that so much. |
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| Jolly | Jun 16 2006, 11:09 AM Post #53 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Bullsh*t. The challenge has been laid, the gauntlet has been thrown. Put up or shut up. |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| John D'Oh | Jun 16 2006, 11:14 AM Post #54 |
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MAMIL
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I know next to nothing about guns. I do know there's lots of guns in Iraq. I'm pretty sure that people don't stop each other in the street and politely say 'pip pip, old sport, would you mind stepping this way, I'd like you to join me in a little bit of fun' before shooting them in the back of the head. Guns do not necessarily make a polite society. |
| What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket? | |
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| Jolly | Jun 16 2006, 11:18 AM Post #55 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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The gun is the Great Equalizer. It puts most people on the same playing field in terms of personal defense. In Iraq, we have the problem of an armed insurrection, led by terrorists and former military...and, not all citizens are armed, and certainly not armed equally. |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| Jolly | Jun 16 2006, 11:19 AM Post #56 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Bump. I'm waiting..... |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| ivorythumper | Jun 16 2006, 11:20 AM Post #57 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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The fact that they are in the middle of an ongoing battle with insurgency might lead some folks to not be so pedantic about the question of guns and polite society.
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| QuirtEvans | Jun 16 2006, 11:21 AM Post #58 |
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It's probably been three decades since someone was childish enough to double dog dare me. Your challenges are meaningless. But, if challenges are so meaningful to you, I challenge you to swim 20 miles out into the Gulf. Come on, hotshot, you've been challenged! |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Jolly | Jun 16 2006, 11:26 AM Post #59 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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I thought you were blowing smoke, pontificating on something you know zilch about. Thank you for proving my point. You wouldn't know the difference between a firing pin and a bobby pin, God bless you. Next time, if you are going to lie about something, lie to somebody that doesn't know anything about the subject matter....but don't lie about guns, the gun culture, or people who use guns to a former gun dealer... |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| QuirtEvans | Jun 16 2006, 11:36 AM Post #60 |
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I repeat, Karnak, you don't know what I know or don't know about guns or people who use them, because I refuse to give you any information to evaluate. I don't care what your experience is, because I haven't suggested that you are a know-nothing when it comes to guns. Nevertheless, you have no clue about me or my experience. You're the one who has this consistent need to prove your credentials. I don't. So keep blowing smoke out of your a$$ about how I've proved your point. All I've done is treated your challenge like the pre-teen testosterone display it was, and refused to respond. Take that however you like, ignorance is after all bliss, so go be blissful. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| John D'Oh | Jun 16 2006, 11:39 AM Post #61 |
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I'm not some folks. [raspberry emoticon] How many people in Japan carry concealed weaponry? They're a pretty polite bunch. So are the Germans. Maybe extensive carpet-bombing creates a polite society. Would that work on New England, I wonder? |
| What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket? | |
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| Jolly | Jun 16 2006, 11:44 AM Post #62 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Is this what you do in the courtroom when you gotten your butt nailed to the wall? Sometimes the truth will set you free.... |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| Jolly | Jun 16 2006, 11:45 AM Post #63 |
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Actually, until pretty recently, personal weapons were the norm in Japanese society. OTOH, they've been pretty much banned in England, one of the most violent societies in the First World... |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| QuirtEvans | Jun 16 2006, 11:46 AM Post #64 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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Are you under the sad misimpression that you've nailed my butt to the wall? Your fantasy world must be awfully fun to live in. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| John D'Oh | Jun 16 2006, 11:55 AM Post #65 |
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MAMIL
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I think murder rates are a little higher in the US, actually, by a factor of about 10. I believe that much of the violence in the UK would be considered relatively minor, and I suspect is largely the fault of the English propensity for binge drinking. Adding firearms to that particular pastime would not be a very smart move, IMNSHO. Americans don't have the same problem, since anyone foolish enough to binge drink American beer is liable to require urgent medical attention. |
| What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket? | |
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| Jolly | Jun 16 2006, 11:59 AM Post #66 |
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I'm not under any impression. I know it. I called your bluff, and you didn't even have a pair of deuces. About all you're doing right now, is making yourself look more idiotic. |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| AlbertaCrude | Jun 16 2006, 12:01 PM Post #67 |
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Bull-Carp
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And speaking of calling bluffs, thi sjust came to mind....
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| ivorythumper | Jun 16 2006, 12:04 PM Post #68 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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But the Japanese are often trained in martial arts. A deadly but polite society if ever there was one.
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| Jolly | Jun 16 2006, 12:04 PM Post #69 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Beer aside (where you may be right, I don't know), the staistics I looked at this morning showed Britian quite a bit higher than most of the West for violent crimes. Didn't check the murder rate, though... |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| QuirtEvans | Jun 16 2006, 12:06 PM Post #70 |
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As much as it pains me to find statistics that support Jolly, here goes: Here are Interpol 2001 crime statistics (rate per 100,000): * 4161 - US * 7736 - Germany * 6941 - France * 9927 - England and Wales Here are the Interpol 1995 crime statistics (rate per 100,000): * 5278 - US * 8179 - Germany * 6316 - France * 7206 - England & Wales |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| ivorythumper | Jun 16 2006, 12:07 PM Post #71 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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You're a mensch, Quirt. |
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| Jolly | Jun 16 2006, 12:07 PM Post #72 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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The "dead man's hand". Thought Hickok carried Navy's.... |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| QuirtEvans | Jun 16 2006, 12:09 PM Post #73 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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Excuse me, but how do you know what cards I'm holding? Please be specific, because I haven't said anything, one way or the other. Claiming you know someone's cards when you don't have any information other than guesswork is a good way to look like a moron, and a better way to lose your shirt when you're playing poker. I'd let you keep your underwear, but your pants would be mine. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Jolly | Jun 16 2006, 12:14 PM Post #74 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Here's what you wrote:
Now, if you want to enter the world of lawyers and liars, and try to semantically parse that statement to your benefit, go ahead. But in the world of the common man in which I dwell, that's pretty clear cut to me. |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| QuirtEvans | Jun 16 2006, 12:16 PM Post #75 |
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Pretty clear cut, based on absolutely no knowledge. I do believe that sums up your posting history. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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