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Picard vs Vader
Topic Started: Jun 11 2006, 11:17 AM (325 Views)
George K
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Axtremus
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Mikhailoh
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Preposterous. Everyone knows the Federation can take the Empire any day. Harrumph.
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dolmansaxlil
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Au contraire!

Pickard would open up a hailing frequency, and Vader would do his remote choking thing on him.

Even if that weren't to happen, the Federation would be to busy trying to be peaceful while the Empire zapped them with the Death Star. The Federation with their Prime Directive nonsense just isn't prepared to be as ruthless as the Empire.

It's no contest. The Federation would get their butts kicked.
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Mikhailoh
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Empire couldn't beat a bunch of rag-tag rebels. Even Kirk or Janeway could open a big ol' can of whupass on Darth. Put down the Labatts and get yer head clear, eh? :lol:
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John D'Oh
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The Federation are nothing but a bunch of namby-pamby bleeding heart liberals. THe Empire are like, well, I think we all know who the Empire is like, don't we? Vader would take the Prime Directive and push it where the sun doesn't shine, and I'm not talking about that funny worm-hole that Cisco liked so much.
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Mister Soak
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Ah. The time tested and pretty much concluded debate: Empire vs. the Federation.

Newsflash, kids: The dorks have had it out and the Empire wins. Boba Fett's ship carries more destructive fire power than half the Federation fleet.

It's no contest on simply "technical" means. But Dol is right. The Empire would spank the Federation. Why? 'cause Pikard has NEVER choked anyone to death with an idle thought.

"The power to destroy a planet is insignificant to the power of the Force".

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kentcouncil
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I responded to this question, in my dorkiest manner, about 7 months ago! :P

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My irredeemable dorkiness is about to be proven by the fact that I am actually going to address this seriously...

I have to say, the Empire probably gets my vote too. Warp speed is no match for hyperspace. And the Empire has almost overwhelming tech advantages that the Federation can only dream of: advanced robotics, fighters, enormous ships, the Death Star...

The Federation has the following advantages, which might be enough to tip the balance, but that's iffy...
1) Federation quantum torpedoes are much more devastating than any offensive weapon the Empire has, except for the Death Star
2) Federation shields seem to work better than Imperial deflector screens
3) The Empire has nothing like Federation transporters (though as Ellison once noted, any civilization capable of mastering the matter-energy conversion technology of transporters wouldn't need starships to conquer the Universe)
4) The Empire doesn't have cloaking devices
5) Federation ships can engage in combat at warp speed, whereas combat is impossible in hyperspace. At least tactically, this would nullify the speed advantage of hyperspace.
6) Imperial star destroyers seem curiously vulnerable to kamikaze attacks
7) The Federation has outstanding military leadership, whereas the Empire, despite its resources, can't keep itself from being toppled by a tiny ragtag group of rebels led by a girl and her wimpy brother. 

Now the Borg vs. the Empire... THERE would be an interesting confrontation!

On an individual level, no one in the Federation, except for a Q, would be a match for a Jedi Knight, much less a Sith Lord.

Ahh. Feels so good to get that out of my system. Now I can go back to being cool again. :cool:

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schindler
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You dork. :nerd:

I only understood about half of that. . .
We're all mad here!
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kentcouncil
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schindler
Jun 11 2006, 08:29 PM
You dork. :nerd:

I only understood about half of that. . .

Because you're not a dork!!!

Thank your lucky stars! :P
It was a confusion of ideas between him and one of the lions he was hunting in Kenya that had caused A. B. Spottsworth to make the obituary column. He thought the lion was dead, and the lion thought it wasn't.

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kentcouncil
Jun 11 2006, 09:46 PM
schindler
Jun 11 2006, 08:29 PM
You dork. :nerd:

I only understood about half of that. . .

Because you're not a dork!!!

Thank your lucky stars! :P

I beg to differ. Dorkiness is very sexy.
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kentcouncil
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Jun 11 2006, 09:14 PM
I beg to differ. Dorkiness is very sexy.

Says the evil reptilian kitten eater from outer space.

(You know you're the only sexy dork in Creation, dol! :wink: )
It was a confusion of ideas between him and one of the lions he was hunting in Kenya that had caused A. B. Spottsworth to make the obituary column. He thought the lion was dead, and the lion thought it wasn't.

- P.G. Wodehouse
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iainhp
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Duct tape is like the force - it has a dark side and it holds the universe together.

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Axtremus
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See Star Wars vs Star Trek in Five Minutes.

[URL=http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/FiveMinutes.html
 
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/FiveMinutes.html[/URL] ]

Conclusions

In a straight-up fight, the Empire squashes the Federation like a bug.
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dolmansaxlil
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Axtremus
Jun 11 2006, 11:44 PM
See Star Wars vs Star Trek in Five Minutes.

[URL=http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/FiveMinutes.html
 
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/FiveMinutes.html[/URL] ]

Conclusions

In a straight-up fight, the Empire squashes the Federation like a bug.

That would be why Mister Soak is so rabid about this topic. A good friend of his used to be a contributor to that site.

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Philistines. I am lost among the Philistines.
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