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Which are the best ways to punish a lawbreaker (felonies and above), in general?
REVENGE - punishment worse than the crime 1 (3.1%)
EYE FOR AN EYE - punishment same as the crime 3 (9.4%)
CORPORAL PUNISHMENT - punishment is painful 2 (6.3%)
INCARCERATION - stay locked in a cell 6 (18.8%)
EXILE - get thrown out of your city/villiage/town 3 (9.4%)
PENAL LABOR - work off your time 11 (34.4%)
FINES - you literally pay for your crime 2 (6.3%)
SHAME - you lose your status in society 4 (12.5%)
Total Votes: 32
Which brand(s) of justice do you most prefer?
Topic Started: Jun 9 2006, 10:27 AM (170 Views)
Aqua Letifer
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Looks like the poll came out okay.


Can anyone think of any more?

It seems to me that we use a variety of these in the U.S.

We have corporal punishment and eye-for-an-eye justice in that we allow the death penalty in some areas. But no torture or other means of physical punishment, in that we don't cut off the finger of anyone who commits grand theft auto. I wonder why? In some circumstances I'd have no problem with something like this.

We definitely use incarceration, and I suppose that's also a form of exile unless you're on house arrest. This helps out the citizens by not being around criminals, but the criminals definitely do not get rehabilitated.

We use penal labor in some prisons. I don't have a problem with this as it benefits both the workers and society (in theory).

We definitley use fines, but I don't think they're very effective. For example, if we resorted only to fines for speeding tickets, the rich wouldn't think twice about law-breaking. They might help out the state via income but it doesn't curb any injustice being done, I don't think.

SHAME is the big one for me. That's not written in the books, but it's a big one. Your place in society is EXTREMELY limited if you've ever been convicted of a crime. Every job I've ever applied for required me to state whether or not I've been convicted of a felony. Not only that, but this form of punishment is on-going and lasts your entire life. If you get into trouble with drugs when you're 16, despite you being a completely different person at 55, that one mistake will follow you and limit your options. I think this is an important one to consider. It seems to be the most severe punishment we have, and it's not even official.

What do you all think?
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ivorythumper
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Rehabilitation and reeducation camps come to mind.
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Aqua Letifer
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Jun 9 2006, 10:28 AM
Rehabilitation and reeducation camps come to mind.

That's true. I guess I didn't consider them because they're not taken as seriously as they should be. You could be totally rehabilitated, but once you're out society still views you as a criminal, not a once-criminal.
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I'm a big fan of rehabilitation, but chose penal labour because I think that giving prisoners work to do while they are in is just fine. They can be rehabilitated while doing something useful.
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I voted for them all.

Personally, I miss the good old days of Scarlet Letters and gibenstocks.
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