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| The end of Jewish Holidays? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 8 2006, 09:09 AM (333 Views) | |
| Jolly | Jun 8 2006, 09:09 AM Post #1 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Interesting news... http://news.mywebpal.com/news_tool_v2.cfm?...=localnews&om=1 |
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| Axtremus | Jun 8 2006, 09:15 AM Post #2 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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May be the school board should just randomly pick a set number of days as "holidays" and be done with it... no one can argue with a random number generator, and the results can always be interpreted as the will of god, right? |
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| AlbertaCrude | Jun 8 2006, 09:27 AM Post #3 |
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Bull-Carp
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Muslims will soon demand that Fridays be holidays so they can celebrate their sabbath. The school should counter offer that all state recognized all statutory holidays especially Christmas, Good Friday and Easter be taken in lieu of observed Muslim religious feasts and events. Enough is enough it's too damn bad if they can't assimilate the prevailing culture. This is, after all, North America not Saudi Arabia. |
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| Axtremus | Jun 8 2006, 09:31 AM Post #4 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Well... the "holidays" in dispute were Jewish holidays, not Christian holidays. While it's easy to apply the "prevailing culture" argument to such Christian holidays as Christmas, would you consider Jewish holidays "prevailing culture" in North America? Those Jewish holidays are not state recognized statutory ones, no?
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| Christopher T | Jun 8 2006, 10:44 AM Post #5 |
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Junior Carp
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Religious holidays should not be part of a school calendar at all. If someone decides to take a religious holiday off, then it is their perogative, but it is not the education system's responsibility to arrange for this. Religious holidays and observances are already excused absenses in the schools, so why should the school have observed religious holidays as part of their calendar? |
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| Dewey | Jun 8 2006, 10:47 AM Post #6 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Because the teachers and administrators want the day off, too. |
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"By nature, i prefer brevity." - John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, p. 685. "Never waste your time trying to explain yourself to people who are committed to misunderstanding you." - Anonymous "Oh sure, every once in a while a turd floated by, but other than that it was just fine." - Joe A., 2011 I'll answer your other comments later, but my primary priority for the rest of the evening is to get drunk." - Klaus, 12/31/14 | |
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| The 89th Key | Jun 8 2006, 10:48 AM Post #7 |
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(Awaiting John's joke about some holiday he uses to drink... :D) |
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| Christopher T | Jun 8 2006, 10:50 AM Post #8 |
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Junior Carp
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So the teachers and administration should have paid holidays as part of their vacation days...they should be allowed to choose which days they want off, and not have to pander to the school calendar of "chosen" religious holidays. |
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| AlbertaCrude | Jun 8 2006, 11:00 AM Post #9 |
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Bull-Carp
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And just who was it that raised the issue? Atheists? Christians? Aboriginals? No. Like I said, there are plenty of statutory holidays they can use in lieu of their own religious feasts. |
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| Dewey | Jun 8 2006, 11:01 AM Post #10 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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It wouldn't make much sense to pay to keep the schools open, and to staff them with non-Christian teachers, to accommodate the droves of students who don't celebrate Christmas, and want to show up for school on December 25. Any organization or institution has to set a reasonable holiday policy that accommodates the majority of its constituent base. If I were living and working in Indonesia, I would likely not work on Christmas, but I wouldn't expect my employer, or the country at large, to institute it as a recognized holiday. |
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"By nature, i prefer brevity." - John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, p. 685. "Never waste your time trying to explain yourself to people who are committed to misunderstanding you." - Anonymous "Oh sure, every once in a while a turd floated by, but other than that it was just fine." - Joe A., 2011 I'll answer your other comments later, but my primary priority for the rest of the evening is to get drunk." - Klaus, 12/31/14 | |
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| John D'Oh | Jun 8 2006, 11:08 AM Post #11 |
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MAMIL
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89 - I'm a long-time supporter of a holiday to celebrate the distillation of what I refer to as the holy spirit. If you choose to make a religious connection with this campaign, that's entirely up to you. Us atheistic imbibers know where we stand (actually, we totter rather than stand). |
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| AlbertaCrude | Jun 8 2006, 11:11 AM Post #12 |
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Bull-Carp
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Would you consider Guy Fawkes eve and all day an acceptable default for international tipplers to celebrate the fine art of inebriation by the holy spirit? |
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| Aqua Letifer | Jun 8 2006, 11:12 AM Post #13 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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I know in a few offices, the company policy is that you're given X amount of personal days; no questions asked on how you use them. Sounds like a decent enough system to me. Some schools pretty much do the same thing. I remember I was given 8 personal leave days a year back in High School. Now, assuming I don't squander all of them on senior skip days ( ), then I could use them for taking time off for religious observances.Maybe just extend the number somewhat? I don't know, I guess I don't see this as a huge deal. Like AC suggested, adapt and adjust some. |
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| Dewey | Jun 8 2006, 11:23 AM Post #14 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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That's actually part of my office's handbook as well. But there are still a certain number of fixed holidays that all must observe, whether they observe that particular holiday or not. Hell, I don't care if my staff wants the Friday after Thanksgiving off, but I do, and they'd better not come knocking on the door to work that day. |
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"By nature, i prefer brevity." - John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, p. 685. "Never waste your time trying to explain yourself to people who are committed to misunderstanding you." - Anonymous "Oh sure, every once in a while a turd floated by, but other than that it was just fine." - Joe A., 2011 I'll answer your other comments later, but my primary priority for the rest of the evening is to get drunk." - Klaus, 12/31/14 | |
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| Nina | Jun 8 2006, 11:47 AM Post #15 |
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I don't know the importance of the two Muslim holidays in question, but I do know that the Jewish holidays are the two most important on the Jewish calendar... the equivalent of Easter and Christmas to Christians. Easter always falls on a Sunday, yet many schools have Good Friday off. There's a day that could perhaps be given back in the interests of equality. Other than Christmas and Good Friday though, what other Christian holidays are there on a public school calendar? |
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| John D'Oh | Jun 8 2006, 12:03 PM Post #16 |
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MAMIL
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It might rather upset the Roman Catholics, which would be a shame, since they generally bring good booze to the party. I've said this before, but anyone whining about having to take days off should consider my lot on 4th July. |
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| ivorythumper | Jun 8 2006, 12:18 PM Post #17 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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You're pretty quick to give back someone else's privilege there, young lady... Funny that in the religious middle ages people worked significantly less than they do now with all the 'holy days'. Today a 40 hour work week is demanded, two -- maybe three -- weeks off begrudgingly given, punching the time clock, an occasional "labor day" or "MLK day" thrown as a political bone to some special interest group... its economic slavery, but the masses are kept well enough to not complain. |
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| John D'Oh | Jun 8 2006, 12:28 PM Post #18 |
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MAMIL
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They do say that Americans want things, Europeans want time. Many in Europe get 6 weeks paid vacation a year plus public holidays. I had five weeks in the UK, before coming over here with a measly, stinkin' ten days off plus 4th of stinkin' July. This year I get 15 - woo-hoo! |
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| musicasacra | Jun 8 2006, 05:23 PM Post #19 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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i don't get any Jewish holidays off at my public university graduate school. they observe the same holidays as my bank employer does, with two exceptions. Columbus Day is a bank holiday -- but i don't get it off at school. MLK is a school holiday -- but i don't get it off at the bank. |
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| Bernard | Jun 8 2006, 09:27 PM Post #20 |
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That's a terrible article. Headline is inflammatory, article itself doesn't contain much info. Written to rile. Can't form an opinion. |
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), then I could use them for taking time off for religious observances.


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