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| Ann Coulter - true to form | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 7 2006, 10:53 AM (3,220 Views) | |
| ivorythumper | Jun 11 2006, 06:22 PM Post #126 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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Are you including me in that assessment, Rick? :lol: |
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| iainhp | Jun 11 2006, 06:25 PM Post #127 |
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Middle Aged Carp
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So, if another woman who had a husband killedon 9/11 suddenly spoke up and seriously derided these 4 women in public, would there be this same level of conversation? |
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| Larry | Jun 11 2006, 06:33 PM Post #128 |
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Nope. There *have* been other women whose husbands were killed on 9/11 who have spoken out against the Jersey Girls. The media ignored them. They had the insulation from criticism as the Jersey Girls you see.... so the safest thing for the leftwing's propaganda arm (commonly referred to as the MSMedia) to do was to just make sure no one heard what they had to say. Hillary Clinton broke their rule by the way.... she spoke out against what Coulter had to say. Coulter responded by saying Hillary needed to talk to her husband about that and ask him if he felt the same way about saying mean things about the woman he raped, Juanita Broderick, or the woman he was sexually forcing himself on at the very moment her husband was committing suicide. Clinton hasn't been heard from on this matter since. |
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| Nobody's Sock | Jun 11 2006, 06:37 PM Post #129 |
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Fulla-Carp
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I'd do her. |
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| Larry | Jun 11 2006, 06:47 PM Post #130 |
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Have you asked Kathy if she'll let you? |
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| Rick Zimmer | Jun 11 2006, 06:48 PM Post #131 |
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Fulla-Carp
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Should I? So far, your posts have primarily aimed at going after those who criticize her, at least defending her honor if not her words. I have given you a couple of opportunities to disavow her, and you have not taken me up on it. So, are you to be included? |
| [size=4]Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul -- Benedict XVI[/size] | |
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| Larry | Jun 11 2006, 06:49 PM Post #132 |
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Rick, will you disavow Murtha, Sheehan, Michael Moore, and the Jersey Girls? |
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| Jack Frost | Jun 11 2006, 06:50 PM Post #133 |
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Bull-Carp
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She's an idiot trying to sell her books. Can anyone tell me how she is in any way differnet than Michael Moore--apart from content. I am surprised that some of the more intelligent conservatives here -- Jolly, JB -- defend her at all. Now Larry, I can see how he would fall for this stuff. She is as clever at marketing as MM and Martha Stewart. To imagine that she actually has a brain is beyond the pale. Do you guys really fall for that stuff? I suppose you send her money too? jf |
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| Rick Zimmer | Jun 11 2006, 06:50 PM Post #134 |
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Fulla-Carp
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No, it does not mean you are conceding anything. You don't have to. In your heart, you know we're right! |
| [size=4]Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul -- Benedict XVI[/size] | |
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| ivorythumper | Jun 11 2006, 06:56 PM Post #135 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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As I figured, you are still trying to lump me into her defenders. Why should I disavow her? I have no vow to her. All I am pointing out is that your attacks are not convincing. I asked you to give examples of her lying or hypocrisy, and all you have been able to argue is that you disagree with her conclusions and her rhetoric. I'd happy to agree with you if you said that she's bombastic, but that is neither lying nor hypocritical. And my calling her bombastic is hardly upholding her honor or defending her, is it? You just don't know which is the right stick to use when bashing your opponents. So please exclude me from your broad brush statements that the conservatives here either think that she speaks for them or consider her representative of their political views. |
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| Larry | Jun 11 2006, 07:00 PM Post #136 |
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I've seen the stuff you fall for, Jack - you have no room to insinuate anyone lacks intelligence. As for telling Moore from Coulter - once again, having seen the stuff you fall for I am not surprised you can't tell the difference between Moore's lies and Coulter's facts. And until one of you leftwing nutbobs shows me a lie from her, facts are exactly what she's giving. |
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| ivorythumper | Jun 11 2006, 07:00 PM Post #137 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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Scratch a liberal and find a fascist -- here's Rick with the new McCarthyism demanding that we publicly denounce Coulter!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: |
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| George K | Jun 11 2006, 07:03 PM Post #138 |
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The point is not one of agreeing or disagreeing with what she says. The question is, where did she lie. No one has answered that. Just to remind us of what a lie is:
Rick Zimmer in this thread http://s10.invisionfree.com/The_New_Coffee...opic=7149&st=25 So, what did she say that is contrary to what she knows to be the truth? |
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| Rick Zimmer | Jun 11 2006, 07:04 PM Post #139 |
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Fulla-Carp
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Would you had defended the widows of the victims of 9/11 so eloquently from Ann's attacks. |
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| ivorythumper | Jun 11 2006, 07:07 PM Post #140 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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I have no interest in the whole topic, Rick, other than to do a little remedial study in the Zimmerian Dialectic(tm).
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| Rick Zimmer | Jun 11 2006, 07:07 PM Post #141 |
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Fulla-Carp
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thumps, Yes, I was playing off a politcian, but not McCarthy. You damned kids! Weren't around for one of the most memorable lines in mid-20th century politics! If you had been, you would have at least given me kudos for playing with it in an argument of liberals versus conservatives. (Now I just hope FrankM is not offended because I have assumed he is a man of a "certain age" and will recall the quote.) |
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| Larry | Jun 11 2006, 07:09 PM Post #142 |
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You just don't get it, do you Rick? These are 4 women out of literally hundreds upon hundreds of women who also lost their husbands that day. *None* of the rest of these women chose to use their husbands' deaths as a political tool to attack their political opponents. These 4 did, and have engaged in lies, and the spreading of propaganda. The minute they did that they gave up their right to be shielded from attack. Where were you by the way when dozens of the other wives who spoke out against the political games these 4 women have engaged in were summarily ignored by the media? Were you equally concerned with *their* rights and feelings? Nah. |
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| Jack Frost | Jun 11 2006, 07:12 PM Post #143 |
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Bull-Carp
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So Larry buy the book and give us some peace. She's an idiot. But a good marketer. You really fall for that ****? jf |
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| Larry | Jun 11 2006, 07:19 PM Post #144 |
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You're both lawyers, right? Given that she's got better credentials than you do, if she's an idiot, what are you? And by what authority can you claim she's an idiot - after all, wasn't it you that started a thread in another forum to tell everyone how you refuse to listen to news shows that don't agree with your views? |
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| Jack Frost | Jun 11 2006, 07:31 PM Post #145 |
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Bull-Carp
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Not me. The only paper i read every day is the Wall Street Journal and i do so because it is the paper that can challenge me most intelligently. I seek out opinion that does not jive with mine. You? jf |
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| Larry | Jun 11 2006, 07:41 PM Post #146 |
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No way, Jose!...... |
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| David Burton | Jun 11 2006, 11:45 PM Post #147 |
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Senior Carp
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I wrote a long piece then distilled it into bulleted points: Ultimately the Barge, acting behind the scenes, controls American politics from above using money and other weapons at its disposal. The Left and Right are two teams fighting to prevent the common citizen from realizing that huge manipulation is behind everything. Coulter is doing what the Left has always done, so now scores are being settled. It's time to set the record straight about McCarthy, and she does a good job of it in Treason, the only book of hers I've bothered to read. But it's a minor skirmish, having little to do with anything other than her continued financial remuneration. People who appreciate her will buy her books. People who appreciate Michael Moore will buy what he sells, etc. I edited out a few things about the Left that the Right believes to be true, and observed that their differences concerned the future of this country. I also edited out what I find objectionable in the Libertarian position and why I've decided I could not in good conscience ever completely side with them. There are deep emotions underneath both sides in this political struggle and I feel it safe to say that were we not "civilized," we'd become about as split and about as violent as Bosnia. I'm not in the least bit kidding. So far bread and circuses is working. Hold your breath, HRC will replace GWB in 2009 and then the plague cometh, which will make AIDS look like a picnic and will shelve temporarily the political debate, as we deal with death on a scale not seen in 700 years. ...and yeah, for more reasons than you can possibly imagine, I'm still with Larry. ... be seeing you. |
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| Moonbat | Jun 12 2006, 12:42 AM Post #148 |
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Plague? How, what, why? |
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| Phlebas | Jun 12 2006, 03:01 AM Post #149 |
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Bull-Carp
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Do your own research. Here's one of many from an earlier book (there are lots more, and you can look them up yourself): "Between 1995 and 2001, the New York Times alone ran more than one hundred articles on "Selma" alone. I believe we may have revisited this triumph of theirs sufficiently by now. For anyone under fifty, the "heady" days of civil rights marches are something out of a history book. The march on Selma was thirty-five years ago." Most of these so-called articles were mentions of Selma, AL in the context of wedding announcements, obituaries. There were also stories that mentioned people named "Selma," or events towns named Selma (in Al, and other states). A few mentioned the Selma to Montgomery march peripherally (ie the articles were not about Selma). The NY Times - one of the most liberal newspapers in the US - actually published about 15 or so articles on the Civil Rights march from Selma to Montgomery, AL (it wasn't a march ON Selma, she's wrong there, but that's just a stupid mistake that someone her age should know - ie not a lie). About 6 or seven are articles that commemorate the anniversary, so the NYT ran maybe 7 or 8 - possible gratuitous - articles about Selma. There are lots of lies like this in her books. I can't really call it shoddy research because I'm sure editors caught this and other BS in her books, yet she kept them in anyway. Like I said, look yourself with - if possible - an open mind, and do your own research. |
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Random FML: Today, I was fired by my boss in front of my coworkers. It would have been nice if I could have left the building before they started celebrating. FML The founding of the bulk of the world's nation states post 1914 is based on self-defined nationalisms. The bulk of those national movements involve territory that was ethnically mixed. The foundation of many of those nation states involved population movements in the aftermath. When the only one that is repeatedly held up as unjust and unjustifiable is the Zionist project, the term anti-semitism may very well be appropriate. - P*D | |
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| John D'Oh | Jun 12 2006, 03:13 AM Post #150 |
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Maybe the disease that rots liberals brains is going to start infecting conservatives. I always suspected Margaret Thatcher had Mad Cow disease for her entire tenure. |
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