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The Rapture?
Topic Started: Jun 7 2006, 07:01 AM (698 Views)
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Yesterday being an ominous date to many, the History channel had an interesting episode dealing with the Antichrist and the prophecies from the books of Daniel and Revelations.

According to this show, the Rapture, (where all Christians ascend to heaven like Elijah), is never mentioned in the bible. The bible only states that the Antichrist will preside over 7 years of nastiness on Earth, followed by Christ returning and conquering Satan and then a 1000 years of peace and good times on Earth.

Nowhere in the Bible does it state that all believers will first be whisked away to heaven before these 7 years of woe occur.

What are your thoughts and beliefs on this matter and if you do believe in the Rapture, what is the basis for this belief?
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Nobody's left here qualified to answer.

They all took off yesterday.
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i guess i must have missed it.
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Jun 7 2006, 07:01 AM
The bible only states that the Antichrist will preside over 7 years of nastiness on Earth, followed by Christ returning and conquering Satan and then a 1000 years of peace and good times on Earth.

Bush is in his fifth year....two to go. :D
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What's interesting is that everyone agrees that the Antichrist will be a very eloquant personality who will sway all who hear him. He will come off as a very devout Christian, quoting scripture, as well as delivering miracles and solutions to world problems.

The thing is, the entire Christian community is so hyperaware and has been for years, of any Antichrist appearance, so it would be a wonder how this Antichrist could sneak into the good graces of the world without being suspect of who he indeed is.

With that said, I believe the human form of Satan (Antichrist), will be female, just to throw off everyone.

The Devil is a bitch.
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What are your thoughts and beliefs on this matter and if you do believe in the Rapture, what is the basis for this belief?
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Jun 7 2006, 10:18 AM
What's interesting is that everyone agrees that the Antichrist will be a very eloquant personality who will sway all who hear him.

That leaves out Bush.

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He will come off as a very devout Christian, quoting scripture,  as well as delivering miracles and solutions to world problems.


Well, maybe not. :D
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i guess i must have missed it.


Well, it wasn't highly advertised, and I don't think he traveled with any openers this time 'round. He hit only a few major cities, but they were real small venues. Word through the grapevine is he'll be doing a comeback tour with Daniel at some point, but the date is uncertain.
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Ok, now that one's funny :lol2:
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Yeah, yeah. You don't have to patronize me. :angry:

( :P )
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I highly recommend if you're curious about it, to read the book of Revelation. It has all your answer in it! :D
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IT could explain better (of course!), but there are certain Protestant faiths who believe in "the rapture."

I'm not familiar with it in its current popular sense.

I understand "the rapture" is a belief of premillennial dispensationalist Protestants.
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Jun 7 2006, 07:18 AM
The thing is, the entire Christian community is so hyperaware and has been for years, of any Antichrist appearance, so it would be a wonder how this Antichrist could sneak into the good graces of the world without being suspect of who he indeed is.

Ahhh...no.

The "entire" Christian community has not been hyperaware. Very small segments of the Christian community have been hyperaware. The rest of us don't give it much thought at all.
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Jun 7 2006, 11:18 AM
The Devil is a bitch.

Well!!! That's works out well for you, sock puppy. :wink:
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A bitch in heat at that.
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Jun 7 2006, 10:02 AM
A bitch in heat at that.

:rimshot:
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hey doesnt anyone read the left behind series???? :wacko:

the rapture is when all the believers get taken up to heaven and all us heathens are left behind...

in the first book in the series, it happens on an airplane flight, pilot discovers half his passengers have...stepped out for abit?

maybe this web site will help, check out the rapture index to see how close we are...(157 on the index as of june 5)

http://www.raptureready.com/


also there is a site which will automatically send an email to your loved ones after u get taken up.

http://www.raptureletters.com/

amazing stuff....
"I don't know much about classical music. For years I thought the Goldberg Variations were something Mr. and Mrs. Goldberg did on their wedding night." Woody Allen
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Jun 7 2006, 09:17 AM
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Jun 7 2006, 07:18 AM
The thing is,  the entire Christian community is so hyperaware and has been for years, of any Antichrist appearance,  so it would be a wonder how this Antichrist could sneak into the good graces of the world without being suspect of who he indeed is.

Ahhh...no.

The "entire" Christian community has not been hyperaware. Very small segments of the Christian community have been hyperaware. The rest of us don't give it much thought at all.

That's not true.
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Jun 7 2006, 11:34 AM
hey doesnt anyone read the left behind series???? :wacko:

the rapture is when all the believers get taken up to heaven and all us heathens are left behind...

in the first book in the series, it happens on an airplane flight, pilot discovers half his passengers have...stepped out for abit?

maybe this web site will help, check out the rapture index to see how close we are...(157 on the index as of june 5)

http://www.raptureready.com/


also there is a site which will automatically send an email to your loved ones after u get taken up.

http://www.raptureletters.com/

amazing stuff....

We read the Left Behind Series, at least some of it.
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from the raptureletters website:
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How is this accomplished, you might ask. It's a dead man switch that will automatically send the emails when it is not reset.


So really, all it takes is one crappy worker to forget to hit the "Reset" button, and millions of people receive an email wrongly stating a loved one has been taken up to heaven?
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I must have a prodigious quantity of mind; it takes me as much as a week, sometimes, to make it up.
- Mark Twain


We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.
-T. S. Eliot
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Jun 7 2006, 12:39 PM
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Jun 7 2006, 09:17 AM
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Jun 7 2006, 07:18 AM
The thing is,  the entire Christian community is so hyperaware and has been for years, of any Antichrist appearance,  so it would be a wonder how this Antichrist could sneak into the good graces of the world without being suspect of who he indeed is.

Ahhh...no.

The "entire" Christian community has not been hyperaware. Very small segments of the Christian community have been hyperaware. The rest of us don't give it much thought at all.

That's not true.

I understand "the rapture" is a belief of premillennial dispensationalist Protestants.

perhaps IT can comment further and explain the distinction between theoligical understandings of being reuinited with Christ at the second coming, and the specific idea of "the rapture," which pertains to Christians being taken up from earth before the second coming.
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Jun 7 2006, 12:42 PM

perhaps IT can comment further and explain the distinction between theoligical understandings of being reuinited with Christ and the specific idea of "the rapture," as it is understood today.

Don't get me involved in this, MS. I thought Baptists handled snakes! :lol: :hearts:
The dogma lives loudly within me.
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Jun 7 2006, 01:02 PM
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Jun 7 2006, 12:42 PM

perhaps IT can comment further and explain the distinction between theoligical understandings of being reuinited with Christ and the specific idea of "the rapture," as it is understood today.

Don't get me involved in this, MS. I thought Baptists handled snakes! :lol: :hearts:

i figured theologians have something to say on most things.

:wink:

:lol:

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