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| Holland; Words fail me... | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 30 2006, 05:23 AM (442 Views) | |
| phykell | May 30 2006, 05:23 AM Post #1 |
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Senior Carp
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http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=104168
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The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it's animals are treated. - Ghandhi Evil cannot be conquered in the world. It can only be resisted within oneself. Remember, bones heal and chicks dig scars | |
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| Mikhailoh | May 30 2006, 05:32 AM Post #2 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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The very fact that this proposal merits press coverage rather than an arrest for conspiracy to commit whatever the charge is there is appalling. Now I don't think this is going anywhere, but condier that, as I have said for some time, the reason there is a group that supports this is due to the internet. People who would have at one time been heavily closeted for fear of discovery now have a forum where they can anonymously communicate with others of their ilk and become deluded that their particular pecadillo is ok. If all you hung out with was cannibals you'd think human for dinner was perfectly normal. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| ***musical princess*** | May 30 2006, 05:42 AM Post #3 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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What is the world coming to.![]() x |
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| Larry | May 30 2006, 05:46 AM Post #4 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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You do realize what a rich straight line you just handed me with that one, don't you?......... ![]() |
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| JBryan | May 30 2006, 05:48 AM Post #5 |
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I am the grey one
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Eat me. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| Mikhailoh | May 30 2006, 05:49 AM Post #6 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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It is meaty. Feel free to flesh it out. |
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| bachophile | May 30 2006, 06:27 AM Post #7 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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ive heard the barnyard animals in holland are organizing and forming a party to protest this depravity...![]()
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| "I don't know much about classical music. For years I thought the Goldberg Variations were something Mr. and Mrs. Goldberg did on their wedding night." Woody Allen | |
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| phykell | May 30 2006, 06:37 AM Post #8 |
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No, the Internet is not to blame. The reason why we all know such groups exist may be because of the Internet, but if the Internet wasn't around, these sort of people would still exist, but the rest of us might not know about it. Ignorance endangers far more people than its antonym does. |
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The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it's animals are treated. - Ghandhi Evil cannot be conquered in the world. It can only be resisted within oneself. Remember, bones heal and chicks dig scars | |
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| John D'Oh | May 30 2006, 07:21 AM Post #9 |
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MAMIL
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In the other thread it's all being blamed on liberalism. :rolleyes: |
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| LWpianistin | May 30 2006, 07:39 AM Post #10 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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wow. that's scary! |
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| John D'Oh | May 30 2006, 07:44 AM Post #11 |
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MAMIL
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Which bit - the bit where Dutchmen want to have sex with kids, or the bit where it's blamed on liberalism? Personally, I blame it on little boys being forced to stick their fingers in dykes. I guess Holland didn't have Ray Nagin and Mr. |
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| LWpianistin | May 30 2006, 07:50 AM Post #12 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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you're bad! :lol: i don't care if it's blamed on liberalism, because i have other things to care about, mainly life. |
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| Mikhailoh | May 30 2006, 07:54 AM Post #13 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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You missed my point entirely. These people have existed, yes. There may have been small isolated groups. But The internet has become a place where these people and groups may congreagate in large numbers, however large they may be, worldwide, without fear of legal reprisal and reinforce among themselves the twisted notion that they are somehow normal. My suspicion has always been that many of these people never acted on these impulse because of feelings of shame or revulsion, or out of fear that they would be identified in their communities. I believe the internet has been the sole reason that the distribution of child pornography has grown, and that the demand for it as well. It is not much of a leap to suppose that, egged on by pornography and the accompanying fantasies, and supported by others with this sickness, more crimes against children are being committed than ever before. And I believe it is this sense that they are not alone that has resulted in openly operating groups lobbying to legalize pedophilia. And yes, I blame that on the effect of the internet. |
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| phykell | May 30 2006, 08:11 AM Post #14 |
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Senior Carp
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You are blaming the mechanism rather than the individuals. The Internet may have provided the medium but is itself an abstract entity. The blame is on the individuals and law enforcement for not reacting accordingly. Before the Internet, these groups clearly existed and while you claim the Internet is to blame for their proliferation you do so with no metrics on their existence before widespread use of the Internet. Just because the Internet has brought this topic to the Public's and the media's attention does not mean it didn't exist before and as I suggested, while it may be somewhat of a Pandora's box, I believe that ultimately it is better out in the open. If these groups' previous anonymity is no longer guaranteed as they no longer restrict their practices to the privacy of their own homes or others, then how can that be a bad thing? |
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| Mikhailoh | May 30 2006, 09:47 AM Post #15 |
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That is so convoluted! I have no time to address this as I must drive to Chicago, but I promise I will. |
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| apple | May 30 2006, 11:16 AM Post #16 |
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one of the angels
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i guess Bach is saving some time.. posting the same response (a complicated one in that it involves images) in different threads.... very appropriate for each tho I say we name that maneouver the Bachdoublepost. |
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| sue | May 30 2006, 11:21 AM Post #17 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Is that sort of like a dopplebach? glad you posted that, apple. I thought I was losing it! |
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| apple | May 30 2006, 11:38 AM Post #18 |
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one of the angels
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doppleBach - much better. i imagine it would be hard, if one tried to do it (at least as well) .. fun to see if people really paid attention. |
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| bachophile | May 30 2006, 12:37 PM Post #19 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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actually i have a set number of pre prepared posts, just waiting for appropriate threads and these just came along... |
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