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| Tweet Topic Started: May 30 2006, 05:17 AM (582 Views) | |
| Radu | May 30 2006, 05:17 AM Post #1 |
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AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - Dutch pedophiles are launching a political party to push for a cut in the legal age for sexual relations to 12 from 16 and the legalization of child pornography and sex with animals. The Charity, Freedom and Diversity (NVD) party said on its Web site it would be officially registered Wednesday, proclaiming: "We are going to shake The Hague awake!" The party said it wanted to cut the legal age for sexual relations to 12 and eventually scrap the limit altogether. "A ban just makes children curious," Ad van den Berg, one of the party's founders, told the Algemeen Dagblad (AD) newspaper. "We want to make pedophilia the subject of discussion," he said, adding that the subject had been a taboo since the 1996 Marc Dutroux child abuse scandal in neighboring Belgium. "We have been hushed up. The only way is through parliament." The Netherlands already has liberal policies on soft drugs, prostitution, and gay marriage, but the NVD is unlikely to win much support, the AD quoted experts as saying. "They make out as if they want more rights for children. But their position that children should be allowed sexual contact from age 12 is of course just in their own interest," anti-pedophile campaigner Ireen van Engelen told the daily. The party said private possession of child pornography should be allowed although it favors banning the trade of such materials. The broadcast of pornography should be allowed on daytime television, with only violent pornography limited to the late evening, according to the party. Toddlers should be given sex education and youths aged 16 and up should be allowed to appear in pornographic films and prostitute themselves. Sex with animals should be allowed although abuse of animals should remain illegal, the NVD said. The party also said everybody should be allowed to go naked in public. The party's program also includes ideas for other areas of public policy including legalizing all soft and hard drugs and free train travel for all. |
![]() ------------------------------------------------------------ "Whenever I hear of culture... I release the safety-catch of my Browning!" The modern media has made cretins out of so many people that they're not interested in reality any more, unless it's reality TV (Jean D'eaux) | |
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| The 89th Key | May 30 2006, 05:25 AM Post #2 |
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| Larry | May 30 2006, 05:30 AM Post #3 |
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You are simply witnessing the progressive erosion of morals and common sense of modern liberalism. Yes, liberalism is a mental disorder. |
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| Mikhailoh | May 30 2006, 05:34 AM Post #4 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Question kind of answers itself in this thread, doesn't it? |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Radu | May 30 2006, 05:35 AM Post #5 |
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And yet, the people are very kind and.... church going. I think, every fifth building in Holland is a Kirche ! And each one has a musical clock playing every quarter of an hour... (how can those people sleep ?) |
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| JBryan | May 30 2006, 05:46 AM Post #6 |
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They probably serve booze and drugs at them as well as allow any form of sexual expression. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| kenny | May 30 2006, 05:56 AM Post #7 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Morality and art means you have to draw a line somewhere - Oscar Wild. I hope they don't move those lines. |
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| bachophile | May 30 2006, 06:03 AM Post #8 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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ive heard the barnyard animals in holland are organizing and forming a party to protest this depravity...![]() ![]() |
| "I don't know much about classical music. For years I thought the Goldberg Variations were something Mr. and Mrs. Goldberg did on their wedding night." Woody Allen | |
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| Horace | May 30 2006, 06:10 AM Post #9 |
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let them all register their party affiliation and then go lock them all up. |
| As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good? | |
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| Rick Zimmer | May 30 2006, 07:21 AM Post #10 |
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I don't understand how this can be equated with liberalism. |
| [size=4]Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul -- Benedict XVI[/size] | |
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| John D'Oh | May 30 2006, 07:23 AM Post #11 |
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Well, because it's bad, obviously. All pedophiles are liberals, it's a law of nature. |
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| Larry | May 30 2006, 07:23 AM Post #12 |
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Of course you don't. |
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| John D'Oh | May 30 2006, 07:27 AM Post #13 |
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He's not alone. Kenny quoted Oscar Wilde in an earlier post. In a less liberal age, Oscar was locked up in Reading Gaol for being homosexual. Proof that Conservatism is a mental disorder? |
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| Larry | May 30 2006, 07:47 AM Post #14 |
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Do not attempt to confuse ignorance with modern conservatism or modern liberalism. Progress is fine. That's not what modern liberalism is about. |
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| John D'Oh | May 30 2006, 07:54 AM Post #15 |
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Modern liberalism is all about having sex with kids and doing whatever you want? Someone should probably tell Tony Blair. |
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| Larry | May 30 2006, 08:00 AM Post #16 |
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| Nina | May 30 2006, 08:04 AM Post #17 |
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Maybe being a Netherlander is a mental disorder. Still waiting for the link between pedophilia and liberalism. I don't think that Warren Jeffs is very liberal, just to give one example. |
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| John D'Oh | May 30 2006, 09:13 AM Post #18 |
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Larry, my point is that what you're doing is confusing mainstream liberalism with what is commonly referred to as the loony left. The idea of removing the age of consent, for example, is a typical loony-left stupidity. To equate this kind of nonsense with the US Democrat party or Tony Blair's Labour party is like equating locking up gays with mainstream modern conservatism. |
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| Rick Zimmer | May 30 2006, 09:21 AM Post #19 |
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Why is support for pedophilia considered even a loony left idea? How does the left get into this at all? It seems to me, this is a pedophile's idea -- and has nothing to do with left, right or centrist viewpoints. |
| [size=4]Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul -- Benedict XVI[/size] | |
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| Klaus | May 30 2006, 09:23 AM Post #20 |
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It is fascinating how important it is for some people to "pigeonhole" other people. "He's an X", "She's a Y" - so there is no need to discuss because we know how stupid/braindead/whatever X and Ys are... |
| Trifonov Fleisher Klaus Sokolov Zimmerman | |
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| kenny | May 30 2006, 09:25 AM Post #21 |
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It is so much more trouble to treat people as individuals. |
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| Klaus | May 30 2006, 09:48 AM Post #22 |
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At least the embarrising reaction to "Nipplegate" would not have happened in the Netherlands - absolutly nobody would have cared, and hence it wouldn't have happened in the first place (no scandal - no incentive)
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| Trifonov Fleisher Klaus Sokolov Zimmerman | |
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| John D'Oh | May 30 2006, 09:55 AM Post #23 |
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Well, I suppose it could be loony-right as well - Libertarianism gone mad means that the age of consent is a restriction of our civil liberties. The emphasis is on the loonie, rather than the left. |
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| John D'Oh | May 30 2006, 09:59 AM Post #24 |
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Too right. The outrage over that little debacle was a pretty funny example of how dumb some conservatives (social ones, as opposed to neo-Iraq invading ones that is) can be. EEk! A tit! My God, I've been scarred for life! Quick, turn the channel back to Saving Private Ryan - I feel so much safer watching men being stabbed, shot and blown up than watching Janet's fried egg surprise! Edit - Funny edit, Radu. :lol: |
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| Klaus | May 30 2006, 10:17 AM Post #25 |
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You forgot the devastating effect that a naked breast has on kids - they turn into mass murders, or - worse - will start thinking about sex. I know many people from the Netherlands personally (I have lived near the border for 20 years). Most kids have already lost their interest in porn when they turn 18 - since it is not considered "evil" or "forbidden", they have realized by then that it is boring. The same applies to beer etc. - since they don't make it special, people are much more relaxed about it. You won't see something like "spring break" happen there. With cannabis it does not work out quite as well, but that's mainly because so many people from other European countries where it is still forbidden go there to buy and consume it. |
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