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| John McCain -- The Political Whore | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 14 2006, 02:30 PM (711 Views) | |
| QuirtEvans | May 15 2006, 03:37 AM Post #26 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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You have to source your jokes better, Rick. That one is generally attributed to George Bernard Shaw at a cocktail party. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Mikhailoh | May 15 2006, 03:39 AM Post #27 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| QuirtEvans | May 15 2006, 04:20 AM Post #28 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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You couldn't prove that by the last five years. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| John D'Oh | May 15 2006, 04:23 AM Post #29 |
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MAMIL
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I think that statement confuses 'President' with 'King'. Quite a lot of presidents make that mistake, as well. At least you know where you are with a King. |
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| Mikhailoh | May 15 2006, 04:49 AM Post #30 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Take a look at the record on Bush's accomplishments. I know some of these will be controversial, but I think a widespread perception is that nothing has happened outside foreign policy during the Bush years. Untrue. This is an admittedly biased website, but if you look for the truth behind it the record is a lot better for all Americans than you might have thought. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1096125/posts |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| John D'Oh | May 15 2006, 04:57 AM Post #31 |
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MAMIL
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It doesn't mention how he nearly choked to death on a pretzel and fell off a Segway.
I think that takes 'admittedly biased' to whole new levels. Almost single-handedly? What's that mean? In one of the responses it says:
They got that bang on the money. :lol: |
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| Rick Zimmer | May 15 2006, 06:05 AM Post #32 |
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Fulla-Carp
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Those of us who follow such things (or watch The Daily Show! ) have known for a few weeks that McCain was going to do this. I have said little about it waiting to see what McCain said.You see, a man of principles could have used this as an opportunity to engage the GOP in a debate on which way it wishes to go -- towards American principles or Falwell principles. Or, at the very least, used it to explain his views to an audience not expected to accept them. Given his self-proclaimed image of honesty and courage in the political marketplace, I gave McCain the benefit of the doubt, thinking that perhaps he really was what he said he was. Unfortunately, my hopes were for naught. McCain is considered to be one of the front-runners for the GOP nomination in 2008 (although GeorgeK may be right, he is ill and will not make the run). If McCain, a major spokeperson for a more sane GOP focused on fiscal conservatism rather than social conservatism has thrown in the towel on the debate between the two wings of the party, I think we know how strong the strangle hold is that the Bible Belters have on the GOP -- a party which once proudly espoused individual rights and fought the incursion of government into people's lives. A sad legacy of the Bush Administration. |
| [size=4]Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul -- Benedict XVI[/size] | |
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| JBryan | May 15 2006, 06:15 AM Post #33 |
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I am the grey one
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Given your definition of a man of principle you must feel a lot like Diogenes. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| Larry | May 15 2006, 06:17 AM Post #34 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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I hate to be the one to break this to you Rick, but Falwell's principles are a lot closer to America's in general than your's, even on your best day. You're too far off the ranch to even attempt to sort this all out. |
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| John D'Oh | May 15 2006, 06:27 AM Post #35 |
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Jerry Falwell is a dreadful human being, in my oh-so-humble opinion. I don't feel that way about Rick even if I don't agree with him on a lot of stuff. |
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| Jolly | May 15 2006, 08:17 AM Post #36 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Politicians are politicians. Why be outraged when a cat acts like a cat, and not a dog. Some of y'all would complain if you were hung with a new rope.... |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| Phlebas | May 15 2006, 08:18 AM Post #37 |
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Bull-Carp
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If you ever get into the business of creating campaign slogans, I'd be dying to hear some of the ones you come up with. |
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Random FML: Today, I was fired by my boss in front of my coworkers. It would have been nice if I could have left the building before they started celebrating. FML The founding of the bulk of the world's nation states post 1914 is based on self-defined nationalisms. The bulk of those national movements involve territory that was ethnically mixed. The foundation of many of those nation states involved population movements in the aftermath. When the only one that is repeatedly held up as unjust and unjustifiable is the Zionist project, the term anti-semitism may very well be appropriate. - P*D | |
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| kluurs | May 15 2006, 09:22 AM Post #38 |
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Fulla-Carp
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Lincoln said all kinds of god-awful stuff - trying to get himself elected - and trying to protect the union. He was abhored by significant portion of the nation - even by the people who elected him for most of his tenure in office. His judgment was seen as poor, his image before the nation...weak. He thought he had no chance whatsoever of being re-elected - and most people agreed - were it not for a couple of Union victories, it probably would not have happened. All of which is to say, that this kind of thing has been going on a long time. A depressed man who suffered two breakdowns in his life, Lincoln would never be elected today - but the idea of reaching out to people who you may not philosophically agree with - is a pretty old concept. It happens. |
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| ivorythumper | May 15 2006, 09:36 AM Post #39 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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I first met McCain 20 years ago -- he spoke through somewhat clenched teeth then. I suspect that its the long term effect of the VC breaking his face. He still has limited mobility in his arms and shoulders and neck. |
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| ivorythumper | May 15 2006, 09:41 AM Post #40 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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If you have been through what McCain has on the receiving end of torture -- the effects and scars are still visible today -- please do share. I do not agree with McCain on a total ban on torture either, but his position on this particular topic does not diminish my respect for him. |
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| John D'Oh | May 15 2006, 09:45 AM Post #41 |
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MAMIL
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On this particular issue he's due a great deal of respect, and leeway. In addition, I think to dismiss supporting a ban on torture as simplistic, and only pandering to those of us who are incapable of seeing the big picture could be seen as more than a little patronising. |
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| ivorythumper | May 15 2006, 09:46 AM Post #42 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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Rick: do you think that a US Senator, let alone a potential presidential candidate, should not be addressing all significant sectors of the American polity? Do only people who agree with your positions deserve a role in the American political process? It often seems that the liberals are indeed the most intolerant among us. |
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) have known for a few weeks that McCain was going to do this. I have said little about it waiting to see what McCain said.




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