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| Tweet Topic Started: May 12 2006, 09:25 PM (300 Views) | |
| Rick Zimmer | May 12 2006, 09:25 PM Post #1 |
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Fulla-Carp
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I have not and will not see United 93. It is still too soon and I am not ready to relive 9/11 so vividly yet. However, this evening I attended a small community theater about a 1/2 mile form my place. My sons had given me season tickets for Christmas. The play this evening was With Their Eyes. It is a play made up completely of the comments of the students, faculty and staff of Stuyvesant High School, which is four blocks from Ground Zero. The comments came from interviews made during the three months after 9/11. Each had their story. Each was reacting as best they could -- some through anger, some through denial, some through tears, some through patriotism, some through just...well, some just reacted. It is a very movng play; one I assume will be produced throughout the country. If you get a chance to see it, do so. It is very moving -- and very real since these are the actual words of those who had to deal with the attack in ways most of us did not have to. If you are near Anaheim CA, here's the link to The Chance Theater. Wander over and see it. The Chance Theater |
| [size=4]Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul -- Benedict XVI[/size] | |
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| ivorythumper | May 12 2006, 09:43 PM Post #2 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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Very interesting -- and I'll watch for it. I agree with you about United 93. |
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| Mikhailoh | May 13 2006, 04:55 AM Post #3 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Rick, you live around Orange County? That bastion of Republicaism?!?!? No wonder you post here.. you are undercover in your town!!! |
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| Jolly | May 13 2006, 05:24 AM Post #4 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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A lot of people need to relive 9/11. It helps their memories. |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| QuirtEvans | May 13 2006, 05:41 AM Post #5 |
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Me three. I just can't. Honestly, I can't even *think* about seeing it. I turn away from the TV commercials about it. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Dewey | May 13 2006, 06:37 AM Post #6 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I disagree, I think too many have actually already forgotten the significance of 9/11. But I don't understand - what makes "United 93" too soon, too vivid, and inappropriate; and this play timely and appropriate? I think they're both fine, but given the choice of the two, I'd personally prefer the movie, which deals with the horror of the day while exemplifying heroism in the face of tragedy, over the play, which only reflects on the resultant emotions generated by the events. |
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"By nature, i prefer brevity." - John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, p. 685. "Never waste your time trying to explain yourself to people who are committed to misunderstanding you." - Anonymous "Oh sure, every once in a while a turd floated by, but other than that it was just fine." - Joe A., 2011 I'll answer your other comments later, but my primary priority for the rest of the evening is to get drunk." - Klaus, 12/31/14 | |
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| Phlebas | May 13 2006, 06:41 AM Post #7 |
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I was working in the garden the other day, and talking to my neighbor who is a retired firefighter. We were both there that day, although his experience was much more harrowing , and included - among other things - the firefighter standing right next to him getting killed by one of the people who fell/jumped. Anyway, for him and me - and others I've talked to who walked home covered in dust - the news coverage, tv shows, and movies seem so much like fiction compared to the actual experience., that seeing the replays of the news, etc. aren't particularly traumatic. I've heard about that play. Stuyvesant HS is one of the elite high schools in the city - along with Bronx Science, etc. I remember thinking about the kids in that school, and in other schools and day care centers close to ground zero as the day was unfolding. I would definately see the flight 93 movie. |
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Random FML: Today, I was fired by my boss in front of my coworkers. It would have been nice if I could have left the building before they started celebrating. FML The founding of the bulk of the world's nation states post 1914 is based on self-defined nationalisms. The bulk of those national movements involve territory that was ethnically mixed. The foundation of many of those nation states involved population movements in the aftermath. When the only one that is repeatedly held up as unjust and unjustifiable is the Zionist project, the term anti-semitism may very well be appropriate. - P*D | |
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| Larry | May 13 2006, 06:51 AM Post #8 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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That's easy. United 93 deals with reality, what really happened. It makes you look at the truth of what happened. The play deals with some people who weren't there but close enough to say they were telling you how they feel about it all. "Touchy feely" put into an art form for the entertainment of the touchy feely crowd. |
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| JBryan | May 13 2006, 07:01 AM Post #9 |
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I am the grey one
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I saw the movie. Everyone should. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| QuirtEvans | May 13 2006, 07:02 AM Post #10 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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For me, the problem with United 93 is that it's too personal. I can watch bloody, gory war movies, or movies about tragedies, and it doesn't affect me that way. United 93 strikes too close to home. I can't process it that way yet. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Phlebas | May 13 2006, 07:06 AM Post #11 |
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Bull-Carp
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I think they're both very different, and one doesn't reflect reality any more than the other. |
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Random FML: Today, I was fired by my boss in front of my coworkers. It would have been nice if I could have left the building before they started celebrating. FML The founding of the bulk of the world's nation states post 1914 is based on self-defined nationalisms. The bulk of those national movements involve territory that was ethnically mixed. The foundation of many of those nation states involved population movements in the aftermath. When the only one that is repeatedly held up as unjust and unjustifiable is the Zionist project, the term anti-semitism may very well be appropriate. - P*D | |
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| Rick Zimmer | May 13 2006, 07:08 AM Post #12 |
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Fulla-Carp
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Shush! I'm on a secret mission! |
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| ivorythumper | May 13 2006, 10:19 AM Post #13 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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Mik: Fitzgerald wants to subpoena you about Zimmergate. |
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| Rick Zimmer | May 13 2006, 11:14 AM Post #14 |
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Fulla-Carp
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They fingered you by mining and trolling your phone calls. |
| [size=4]Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul -- Benedict XVI[/size] | |
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| George K | May 13 2006, 11:22 AM Post #15 |
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Finally
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Which the government bought from those evil corporations that had the data to begin with. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Steve Miller | May 13 2006, 01:09 PM Post #16 |
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Bull-Carp
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Really? How much did they pay? I'll sell 'em my records for half that. Have them call me - they already have the number.
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Wag more Bark less | |
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| Dewey | May 13 2006, 01:14 PM Post #17 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Maybe that explains that unsigned, plain postcard I got a couple weeks ago that just said, "You should call your mother more often." :rolleyes: |
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"By nature, i prefer brevity." - John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, p. 685. "Never waste your time trying to explain yourself to people who are committed to misunderstanding you." - Anonymous "Oh sure, every once in a while a turd floated by, but other than that it was just fine." - Joe A., 2011 I'll answer your other comments later, but my primary priority for the rest of the evening is to get drunk." - Klaus, 12/31/14 | |
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| Mikhailoh | May 13 2006, 01:14 PM Post #18 |
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They already have yours. I did it out of patriotism. That part about you and Rick being jihadists? I'm pretty sure they knew I was kidding.
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| The 89th Key | May 13 2006, 01:37 PM Post #19 |
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Every American should see the movie. Not every American will be able to handle it. If you don't think you can handle it yet, I don't blame you. It's very powerful, emotional, and really hits hard. Although, that's why I think every American should see it. |
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| apple | May 13 2006, 01:40 PM Post #20 |
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one of the angels
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speaking of the data everyone seems so upset about.. how 'bout the fact that our country take's part of your earnings, that you have social security numbers, that credit agencies can misreport your credit rating, that municipalities can vote a tax increase and don't take the expired ones off the books. gggrrrrhh |
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| Jolly | May 13 2006, 01:45 PM Post #21 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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They already got 'em. Got a hardwire telephone? If so, and you're in the phone book, I now have your name, your telephone number, your street address, and some nice satellite photos of your neighborhood. And that's the easy stuff. |
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| John D'Oh | May 13 2006, 01:59 PM Post #22 |
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I cried like a baby for about a solid hour after watching Schindlers List and as great a movie as it is, I've never watched it again. I don't think I can face United 93. |
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