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| Huh?; what's wrong with a fork and spoon? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 5 2006, 06:56 PM (382 Views) | |
| AlbertaCrude | May 5 2006, 06:56 PM Post #1 |
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Bull-Carp
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Boy's eating Habits Lead to International Protest :wacko: |
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| pianojerome | May 5 2006, 07:08 PM Post #2 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I was always told: "pick and choose your battles." |
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| sue | May 5 2006, 08:50 PM Post #3 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I was always told...'when in Rome.....' |
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| Bernard | May 5 2006, 09:06 PM Post #4 |
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Senior Carp
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I don't get it. What's wrong with eating with a fork and spoon? |
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| LWpianistin | May 5 2006, 09:10 PM Post #5 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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i don't get it either.... Sporks aren't exactly "proper etiquette".... |
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| sarah_blueparrot | May 6 2006, 12:29 AM Post #6 |
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I always use a fork and spoon when eating curries or casseroles or anything wet. It's what the Thais and the Fijians traditionally use when eating. Besides, I didn't know pigs used cutlery.. |
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Death is simply a shedding of the physical body like the butterfly shedding its cocoon. It is a transition to a higher state of consciousness where you continue to perceive, to understand, to laugh, and to be able to grow. - Dr. Elizabeth Kubler-Ross | |
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| QuirtEvans | May 6 2006, 02:47 AM Post #7 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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Are you talking about the mother or the school system? |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| big al | May 6 2006, 04:53 AM Post #8 |
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Bull-Carp
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I don't know how he was eating. The article made me curious. I am aware that the use of utensils varies widely and that some cultures use their hands. I'm presently reading a biography of an Indian mathematican who learned to eat with untensils only when he decided to go to England in 1914. Since this boy was said to be using a knife and fork, perhaps he was bringing the plate or bowl to his mouth and shoveling the food in as I have often seen people do with chopsticks when eating a bowl of rice or noodles. As Sue says, "when in Rome". Big Al |
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Location: Western PA "jesu, der simcha fun der man's farlangen." -bachophile | |
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| pianojerome | May 6 2006, 06:29 AM Post #9 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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| Nina | May 6 2006, 06:55 AM Post #10 |
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This looks like a case where adults have gone in and started a war that could have been resolved quite easily with an ounce of compassion and decency. What if the teacher had simply said, "At school, you need to use a spoon and fork." I'm guessing this kid would not have jumped up and started spouting off about equality and cultural sensitivity. He woulda picked up a spoon and fork. |
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| pianojerome | May 6 2006, 07:06 AM Post #11 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Actually, Nina, he was eating with a fork and spoon and that's what the teachers objected to. Calling him a pig didn't help. But I think you are right: had they simply told him, this other way is how you should eat here at school, (without calling him all sorts of names and embarassing him by separating him from his friends) he probably would have just done it. Seven year old kids don't say, "No way, this is how my ancestors have traditionally eaten, and if you don't let me eat this way, I'm going to sue you." They just do what they are told to do. More likely than not, the parents are the ones who raised the whole issue of culture, but at some point one needs to learn how to live in the society in which one is living (They do not live in Vietnam anymore; they live in Canada). |
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| John D'Oh | May 6 2006, 07:08 AM Post #12 |
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If the teacher actually did call him a pig she has no business teaching. My guess is she didn't. |
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| pianojerome | May 6 2006, 07:10 AM Post #13 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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from the article: According to Luc, the way she said it wasn't nice. "She said, I'm disgusting, I'm a pig, I'm a clown by the way I'm eating," said the young Montrealer. ... "'Every time your son eats like a pig, he'll be disciplined,'" Gallardo [Luc's mother] says she was told. |
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| Mikhailoh | May 6 2006, 07:22 AM Post #14 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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There is more to this story somehow than the choice of utensils. I believe the teacher said this, and shoud be corrected firmly, but I still think we don't know the whole story. |
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| Nina | May 6 2006, 08:00 AM Post #15 |
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This story is whacked. First, "Luc used to eat his lunch at his school with a fork and spoon, until one day his teacher told him it was wrong." Implying that the fork and spoon were what was wrong. Then, "Gallardo said she tried to get help from the school principal, but was told Luc should adjust to the Canadian way of eating. "'Every time your son eats like a pig, he'll be disciplined,'" Gallardo says she was told. " What gives? Does eating in the "Canadian way" mean no knives and forks? The story is written so poorly you can't figure out what is wrong. Is the kid being punished for eating with a spoon and fork, or for eating with his hands? And what, pray tell, is the Canadian way of eating, eh? Here's a story that's a bit more precisely written: Filipino table etiquette punished Apparently he's in trouble for using BOTH a fork and spoon, simultaneously. No hands are involved. These people need to get a life. |
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| sue | May 6 2006, 09:00 AM Post #16 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Exactly. My guess is that the 'pig' comment, is a bad translation of something the teacher said in French. That's how it reads to me. |
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| plays88keys | May 6 2006, 09:24 AM Post #17 |
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Pisa-Carp
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there's no place like home there's no place like home there's no place like home... |
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| DivaDeb | May 6 2006, 09:36 AM Post #18 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Plays...keep saying that, those of us in Kansas would love a visit!
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| iainhp | May 6 2006, 09:55 AM Post #19 |
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Wow, my kids are in big trouble. They don't use a fork, or a spoon wth their lunch - they just pick the sandwich up with their hands...................... |
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| Nina | May 6 2006, 10:04 AM Post #20 |
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Senior Carp
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PIGS!! |
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| AlbertaCrude | May 6 2006, 10:30 AM Post #21 |
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Bull-Carp
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With a shovel and garden fork and no chewing before swallowing. |
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| sue | May 6 2006, 11:06 AM Post #22 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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But we always say please and thank you. We're very polite. |
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| John D'Oh | May 6 2006, 01:57 PM Post #23 |
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This is Quebec. Some might say it's the Province dedicated to the double standard when it comes to cultural diversity, n'est-ce pas?
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| kenny | May 6 2006, 02:03 PM Post #24 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I think the teacher who "punished" the boy and called him a pig was acting like a stunned twit. The article says he was eating with a fork and spoon. At first I thought this was how he was eating till I reread the article. Also may Phillipinos eat with their fingers: http://www.globalgourmet.com/destinations/...es/phileat.html snip Food is eaten with a fork in one hand and a spoon in the other, knives are seldom used. Rural Filipinos prefer to use their hands. Some upscale native restaurants in Manila serve food this way (kamayan-style). http://www.netguard.dk/kamayan.php |
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| AlbertaCrude | May 6 2006, 03:15 PM Post #25 |
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Bull-Carp
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So do I. |
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