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| Is this a surprise?; Porter Goss resigns | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 5 2006, 11:52 AM (318 Views) | |
| justme | May 5 2006, 11:52 AM Post #1 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/05/05/D8HDP7AG2.html |
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| Kincaid | May 5 2006, 01:38 PM Post #2 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I'd love to know if this was a simple "get out while the gettin's good" or if there are some deals being brokered. May be the latter if the replacement is someone the CIA wants. (Edit: I should point out that 89th pwned you on this news, Peg.) |
| Kincaid - disgusted Republican Partisan since 2006. | |
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| justme | May 5 2006, 02:04 PM Post #3 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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oooooops. pwned again. I admit I don't read all the threads.
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| justme | May 5 2006, 02:04 PM Post #4 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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or thread titles. :lol: |
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| Jack Frost | May 5 2006, 06:21 PM Post #5 |
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Bull-Carp
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Can you say "GOP prostitute scandal?" aka Hookergate. jf |
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| George K | May 5 2006, 07:20 PM Post #6 |
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Finally
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The Washington Post says that Bush forced him out: Bush Ends Goss's Stormy Tenure By Forcing Him Out as CIA Chief By Dafna Linzer and Walter Pincus Washington Post Staff Writers Saturday, May 6, 2006; A01 Porter J. Goss was forced to step down yesterday as CIA director, ending a turbulent 18-month tenure marked by an exodus of some of the agency's top talent and growing White House dissatisfaction with his leadership during a time of war. Seated next to President Bush in the Oval Office, Goss, a Republican congressman from Florida before he took over the CIA, said he was "stepping aside" but gave no reason for the departure. Bush, who did not name a successor, said he had accepted the resignation and thanked Goss for his service. "Porter's tenure at the CIA was one of transition, where he's helped this agency become integrated into . . . the intelligence community," Bush said. "That was a tough job, and he's led ably." Bush said he had developed a "very close personal relationship" with Goss, who succeeded George J. Tenet at the agency's helm in September 2004. But senior administration officials said Bush had lost confidence in Goss, 67, almost from the beginning and decided months ago to replace him. In what was described as a difficult meeting in April with Director of National Intelligence John D. Negroponte, Goss was told to prepare to leave by May, according to several officials with knowledge of the conversation. "There has been an open conversation for a few weeks, through Negroponte, with the acknowledgment of the president" about replacing Goss, said a senior White House official who discussed the internal deliberations on the condition of anonymity. Another senior White House official said Goss had always been viewed as a "transitional figure" who would leave by year's end. His departure was accelerated after Bush launched a shake-up of his White House staff in hopes of beginning a political turnaround. White House officials said the president could nominate Goss's successor as early as Monday. Homeland security adviser Frances Fragos Townsend, who had long been rumored as a potential candidate, is not in the running, administration officials said. Speculation centered on other possible candidates including Gen. Michael V. Hayden, the former National Security Agency director who is Negroponte's deputy, and Mary Margaret Graham, who was transferred from CIA headquarters after clashing with Goss's staff. She now coordinates intelligence collection for Negroponte. Negroponte took over as intelligence czar last year in a job created by Congress when it overhauled the nation's intelligence agencies in response to their failure to prevent the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Negroponte's role as the government's senior coordinator overseeing a web of intelligence agencies diminished Goss's job. Edit: OTOH, Bill Krystol said that there's something that will be embarrasing to the Bush adminsitration. You may be right, Jack. “Something happened,” neo-conservative magazine editor William Kristol said on Fox News this afternoon. “It’s going to be a bad few days. We’re going to discover something … It will be something not good for the Bush Administration.” Fox News actually got a phone call from a “top White House official” during Kristol’s damning comments, and Kristol was cut off so Bush mouthpiece Chris Wallace could say the Goss resignation is just a harmless part of the “White House shakeup.” Sure. |
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| Nina | May 6 2006, 07:01 AM Post #7 |
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Senior Carp
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Did anyone hear Bush's press conference yesterday on Goss? It certainly sounded different from many of the others. He was asked to leave--I have no doubt although I have no proof, either. |
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| Larry | May 6 2006, 07:14 AM Post #8 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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It was pretty obvious that Bush had fired the guy. Bush finds the man isn't fit for the job, maybe even finds out about some sort of hanky panky the guy is involved in, does the right thing by firing him, then makes the announcement of it in a diplomatic manner, tactfully, as is the proper way. But watch the left turn it around and make Bush out to be the bad guy. It never fails. "Hookergate" my ass. |
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| JBryan | May 6 2006, 07:15 AM Post #9 |
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I am the grey one
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If this had anything to do with a scandal then we should expect not to see the President appear with Porter Goss at all to announce his resignation. We certainly would not here him talk of how he admires Goss' integrity. This probably had to do with nothing more than a power struggle between Goss and Negroponte who in becoming NCI took away Goss' position as DCI. |
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| Nina | May 6 2006, 08:06 AM Post #10 |
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Senior Carp
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Bush gets to fire anyone he wants. Of course from my perspective, let's just hope he's just starting to get the hang of it! I agree, he was pointed and simply said, "I have accepted his resignation." That's what I'd expect him to say--I find no fault in that at all. The difference I noticed was that in previous "resignations," like McClelland's, Bush went out of his way to praise the job the guy had done. You didn't hear much of that yesterday.I'll hold off on throwing around scandal stuff, but scandal or no, it seems like the CIA is busted. (That's a highly technical personnel term ). Whether Goss (or anyone) could have improved it is open to question--but Goss' tenure sure didn't seem to help.JB, you're probably right about Negroponte. Conspicuously present. |
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| Larry | May 6 2006, 12:47 PM Post #11 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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The CIA has been busted ever since Clinton castrated it. That's a big part of the problem now. |
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| QuirtEvans | May 6 2006, 01:13 PM Post #12 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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That's my take, too. However, it's clear that Goss wasn't exactly good for morale at the CIA. He really disrupted the place, and lots of long-time management left. The people Goss brought in have been referred to with derision as "Gosslings". If Bush did indeed can him, it was probably a good move. |
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| George K | May 6 2006, 01:22 PM Post #13 |
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Finally
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New York Daily News Says says that hookergate may be the issue after all. I'll betcha Bush is pissed as hell. |
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| justme | May 6 2006, 02:07 PM Post #14 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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How disapponting. I met Porter Goss a few years ago when my son was trying to get into the Naval Academy. He interviewed with him and we met him after the interview. We really liked the man. He was very personable, sensitive to Nate and professional as well. Nathan got his endorsement and I have the letter hanging on the wall in my office. |
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| John D'Oh | May 6 2006, 02:56 PM Post #15 |
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MAMIL
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I think it's a damn shame. There's not many people around who are named after beers, and most of the ones who are don't amount to very much. |
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| George K | May 6 2006, 03:57 PM Post #16 |
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Finally
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Separated at Birth?
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I agree, he was pointed and simply said, "I have accepted his resignation." That's what I'd expect him to say--I find no fault in that at all. The difference I noticed was that in previous "resignations," like McClelland's, Bush went out of his way to praise the job the guy had done. You didn't hear much of that yesterday.

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