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| Jesus was a fraud?; ...walked on water? More like ICE! | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 4 2006, 09:59 AM (304 Views) | |
| The 89th Key | Apr 4 2006, 09:59 AM Post #1 |
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Jesus Could Have Walked on Ice, Scientist Says By Sara Goudarzi LiveScience Staff Writer posted: 04 April 2006 12:03 pm ET Rare conditions could have conspired to create hard-to-see ice on the Sea of Galilee that a person could have walked on back when Jesus is said to have walked on water, a scientist said today. The study, which examines a combination of favorable water and environmental conditions, proposes that Jesus could have walked on an isolated patch of floating ice on what is now known as Lake Kinneret in northern Israel. Looking at temperature records of the Mediterranean Sea surface and using analytical ice and statistical models, scientists considered a small section of the cold freshwater surface of the lake. The area studied, about 10,000 square feet, was near salty springs that empty into it. The results suggest temperatures dropped to 25 degrees Fahrenheit (-4 degrees Celsius) during one of the two cold periods 2,500 –1,500 years ago for up to two days, the same decades during which Jesus lived. With such conditions, a floating patch of ice could develop above the plumes resulting from the salty springs along the lake's western shore in Tabgha. Tabgha is the town where many archeological findings related to Jesus have been found. "We simply explain that unique freezing processes probably happened in that region only a handful of times during the last 12,000 years," said Doron Nof, a Florida State University Professor of Oceanography. "We leave to others the question of whether or not our research explains the biblical account." Nof figures that in the last 120 centuries, the odds of such conditions on the low latitude Lake Kinneret are most likely 1-in-1,000. But during the time period when Jesus lived, such “spring ice” may have formed once every 30 to 60 years. Such floating ice in the unfrozen waters of the lake would be hard to spot, especially if rain had smoothed its surface. "In today's climate, the chance of springs ice forming in northern Israel is effectively zero, or about once in more than 10,000 years," Nof said. The findings are detailed in the April 2006 Journal of Paleolimnology. |
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| JBryan | Apr 4 2006, 10:07 AM Post #2 |
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I am the grey one
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Great but let me know when the crack that water into wine thing. That would be something I would be especially interested in. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| kenny | Apr 4 2006, 10:16 AM Post #3 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Also, the writers of the NT left out all references to Jesus' perfect double axel and triple Lutz. These miracles were considered too far-fetched for even Christians to believe. You see the primitive metals used for ice skate blades of the time were not hard enough to sharpen to the razor edge needed for these maneuvers. The one early church with stained-glass panels of our Savior airborne mid-Lutz was burned down by the earliest order of the Franciscans. |
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| bachophile | Apr 4 2006, 10:22 AM Post #4 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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| "I don't know much about classical music. For years I thought the Goldberg Variations were something Mr. and Mrs. Goldberg did on their wedding night." Woody Allen | |
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| sue | Apr 4 2006, 10:23 AM Post #5 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Paleolimnology, eh? I had to look it up.Ya learn something every day here. |
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| bachophile | Apr 4 2006, 10:24 AM Post #6 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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in other words...pond scum |
| "I don't know much about classical music. For years I thought the Goldberg Variations were something Mr. and Mrs. Goldberg did on their wedding night." Woody Allen | |
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| sue | Apr 4 2006, 10:30 AM Post #7 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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That was perhaps due to his choice of apparel. That loose fitting robe wasn't the best choice when doing triple lutzes.
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| JBryan | Apr 4 2006, 10:31 AM Post #8 |
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somehow "Jesus walked on the pond scum" just takes all the mystery out of it. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| bachophile | Apr 4 2006, 01:06 PM Post #9 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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while on the topic of once in a millenium weather conditions in the holyland, this photo was taken today in western galilee.![]() tornadoes? this isnt oklahoma... |
| "I don't know much about classical music. For years I thought the Goldberg Variations were something Mr. and Mrs. Goldberg did on their wedding night." Woody Allen | |
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| Jeffrey | Apr 4 2006, 06:35 PM Post #10 |
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Senior Carp
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Or the stuff was just made up copying stories about Elijah but going one better after Jesus died. |
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| John D'Oh | Apr 5 2006, 04:31 AM Post #11 |
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MAMIL
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That would explain where all the fish came from to feed the 5000, as well as the ascent into heaven. |
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| Larry | Apr 5 2006, 05:36 AM Post #12 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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Or it wasn't, and the idea that it was came from a bunch of alleged "scholars" with an agenda.... |
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Of the Pokatwat Tribe | |
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