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What should the US do in Iraq?
1) Pull out now. Let the Iraqis work out their own problems, even if we created them. 2 (11.1%)
2) Set an agenda. Pick a date, and pull out. What happens happens. 0 (0%)
3) Stay until a government is established, stable or not. 1 (5.6%)
4) Stay until a stable government is in place for (say) a year 5 (27.8%)
5) Keep a reduced military presence, like in post-war Germany 7 (38.9%)
6) It was a brilliant strategic move. Stay forever 3 (16.7%)
Total Votes: 18
Iraq - We're there, now what?; What should we do?
Topic Started: Apr 2 2006, 08:41 AM (244 Views)
George K
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There are those here who criticize the decision to invade Iraq. There are those here who support it. Fact is, what's done is done, and you can't unring the bell. We're there.

What should the US and other nations do now, 3 years later?
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Rick Zimmer
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I voted to pull out now (surprise!), but I disagree with the premise.

It seems to me the problems in Iraq now have existed for centuries and are now being exacerbated by the Iraqis themselves.

We did not create the sectarian hatred now being played out.

We did not create the inability of the Iraqis to form a government.

We did not create suicide bombers, beheaders, and kidnappers.

We did not create the alliance between Iran and the majority, ruling, Shiites.

We did not form the death squads in the Department of the Interior.

We did not create the loyalty to warlords, and provincial leaders and religious leaders rather than their fellow countrymen.

There is much havoc we did create in Iraq, havoc we should never have created, but the problems now are of the Iraqis own making and we have no responsibility to resolve it -- nor any ability to. We should not be sacrificing American lives and American money to solve problems which the Iraqis created and now prefer to act out rather than solve themselves.
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George K
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Rick, I offered no premise to the poll, at least not intentionally. I just looked at options that are possible - if I missed one, my apologies.

I may be just a bit dense, but please point out to me the premise that you disagree with. I simply stated this:

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There are those here who criticize the decision to invade Iraq. There are those here who support it. Fact is, what's done is done, and you can't unring the bell. We're there.

What should the US and other nations do now, 3 years later?


Do you disagree that there is disagreement about the decision to invade?
Do you disagree with one cannot unring the bell?
Do you disagree with the fact that we are there?
Do you disagree with the question that asks what we should do now?

By the way, your statements about the internal problems that exist in Iraq are something with which I agree.
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Rick Zimmer
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George K
Apr 2 2006, 09:06 AM
Rick, I offered no premise to the poll, at least not intentionally. I just looked at options that are possible - if I missed one, my apologies.

I may be just a bit dense, but please point out to me the premise that you disagree with. I simply stated this:

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There are those here who criticize the decision to invade Iraq. There are those here who support it. Fact is, what's done is done, and you can't unring the bell. We're there.

What should the US and other nations do now, 3 years later?


Do you disagree that there is disagreement about the decision to invade?
Do you disagree with one cannot unring the bell?
Do you disagree with the fact that we are there?
Do you disagree with the question that asks what we should do now?

By the way, your statements about the internal problems that exist in Iraq are something with which I agree.

No, no, no, George. It was not the premise of the poll itself. Just the premise of the answer I chose -- namely that we have caused the problems that now exist in Iraq.

Of course, Bush was warned about this happening, and ignored those warnings -- so from that standpoint we opened the door for them, we have created much havoc and we have much to seek forgiveness for. But we cannot solve the problems the Iraqis are now creating themselves.

I am sorry I was not more explicit.
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Larry
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namely that we have caused the problems that now exist in Iraq.


Sheer ideologically driven ignorance.

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pianojerome
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HOLY CARP!!!
"Stay until a stable government is in place for (say) a year"


The alternative is like holding a friend on your shoulders so that he can reach something in a tree, but then just dropping him and walking away before he can get anything because it's cold and you'd rather be watching the game.
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jon-nyc
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You missed a choice, George.

It would be similar to number 4, except with the recognition that there might not be a stable government there even in a year. I suppose you could call it 'keep trying and reevaluate as time goes on'.

I would consider that to be our best available option.
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John D'Oh
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I voted 5) as it's the closest to what I think we should do.

George, you also left out 'nuke the lot of 'em and let God sort them out'.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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CrashTest
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Haha, you said pull out
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