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| Helen Thomas - PWN3D!!!1; ...at Bush's press conference | |
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| Larry | Mar 22 2006, 07:55 AM Post #76 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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That's it, Rick - keep thinking with a loser's brain. |
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| Jolly | Mar 22 2006, 08:02 AM Post #77 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Absolutely. All hat, no cattle, does not play well in Texas, or much of the South and Midwest. Clinton was a lot about all hat... |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| John D'Oh | Mar 22 2006, 08:06 AM Post #78 |
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:lol: |
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| ivorythumper | Mar 22 2006, 08:12 AM Post #79 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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And you probably think Vincent Foster really committed suicide, huh? |
| The dogma lives loudly within me. | |
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| Jolly | Mar 22 2006, 08:14 AM Post #80 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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When the Marines first introduce a young man to bootcamp, one of the top priorities is to rearrange the recruit's mentality. To be effective combat warriors, thought processes must change. To illustrate: when two young American men get into a bar fight, it most often starts with posturing, pushing and shoving. As the DIs explain it, it is much more effective to turn a meek cheek to wrath, wait until your opponent passes by, and then beat his head in with barstool. It carries very little risk to the attacker, maximum injury to your opponent, and uses a minimum of resources. The good politicians do the same thing, albeit in a different sense. W was his father's " enforcer during the latter stages of 41's Presidency, which is why I have always found the charges of him being waffly, or not predatory. to be ludicrous. As David Frum so aptly pointed out in his book, Bush is very much a corporate CEO type manager, but whoa unto those who draw his ire. Fear is the beginning of respect, be it in the offices of a business, or in diplomatic relations with other nations. Other nations of the world may not love the United States, but I doubt very few now take us, or our military, lightly. That is not an entirely bad thing. Therefore, sometimes it pays to have a SOB on your side... |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| John D'Oh | Mar 22 2006, 08:22 AM Post #81 |
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The same people killed him that killed the Kennedy boys. Since these deaths they've become disenchanted with the Illuminati and are currently spending their evenings as backing singers with Elvis Presley. |
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| QuirtEvans | Mar 22 2006, 08:53 AM Post #82 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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Because he's downright vicious to his opponents. Remember Swiftboating? |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| George K | Mar 22 2006, 09:03 AM Post #83 |
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NOOOOO!!!!!!
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Larry | Mar 22 2006, 09:08 AM Post #84 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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Let's not revise history. Bush had nothing to do with the swift boat issue, and in fact went on record that he didn't support them. |
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| Rick Zimmer | Mar 22 2006, 09:16 AM Post #85 |
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Given the debacle in Iraq, our failure to achieve any of our goals, and the total incompetence in the way the mission has been handled, they really should take it lightly -- at least when commanded by Bush. Unless, of course, the greatest fear is chaos. This is certainly not our finest hour that would instill fear in anyone at all. |
| [size=4]Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul -- Benedict XVI[/size] | |
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| John D'Oh | Mar 22 2006, 09:34 AM Post #86 |
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Would anybody here like to buy a bridge I've been trying to sell? It has a prime location in central London, and comes with a great deal of history. Alternatively,
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| Rick Zimmer | Mar 22 2006, 09:45 AM Post #87 |
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I just could not bring myself to saying this, Jon. It was TOO easy. Thanks for doing so. |
| [size=4]Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul -- Benedict XVI[/size] | |
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| ivorythumper | Mar 22 2006, 01:16 PM Post #88 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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Our chief goal was to remove Saddam from power. We did that. You really need to reconsider this Zimmerian Dialectic (tm)-- it just doesn't seem to be working for you. |
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| QuirtEvans | Mar 22 2006, 01:36 PM Post #89 |
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I'm not sure it was our *chief* goal, but it was certainly one of the first and foremost goals, and it was a necessary prerequisite to the other goals. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| George K | Mar 22 2006, 01:38 PM Post #90 |
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You're misquoting him, Thumps.
We did not achieve any of Ricks goals. Oops. Took that out of context didn't I? My bad.
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| ivorythumper | Mar 22 2006, 01:47 PM Post #91 |
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You're quibbling, Quirt. Read Bush's Address from March 17, 2003. It seems to be pretty much about Saddam. |
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| QuirtEvans | Mar 22 2006, 01:58 PM Post #92 |
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Yeah, maybe I'm quibbling. But I don't think taking out Saddam constituted "Mission Accomplished", whatever banners the White House may have commissioned. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| John D'Oh | Mar 22 2006, 02:04 PM Post #93 |
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You could argue that an over-emphasis on the relatively easy to achieve goal of removing Saddam indicates a lack of clear mid-term planning by the administration. |
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| The 89th Key | Mar 22 2006, 02:07 PM Post #94 |
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You mean like removing Saddam? National elections? Et cetera? Please recant that statement. |
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| ivorythumper | Mar 22 2006, 02:15 PM Post #95 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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"Mission Accomplished" was never on the table. You're not studying the Zimmerian Dialectic (tm), are you?
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| ivorythumper | Mar 22 2006, 02:17 PM Post #96 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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You could argue that. I don't expect a Presidential Address on the eve of an invasion to lay out implementation strategies. |
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| John D'Oh | Mar 22 2006, 02:21 PM Post #97 |
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No, I will argue that. You could. My point was that stating that removing Saddam is the primary goal of this conflict is to overly-simplify, and declaring the war over after a very short period of time was either naive or misleading. Clearly, Bush has achieved some of his objectives, however there's a long way to go before the operation can be considered a success. |
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| The 89th Key | Mar 22 2006, 02:23 PM Post #98 |
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I can agree with that. I can also agree that it will be a success once we get those wacky libs out of the media, so we can get the job done. On second thought, Bush does a pretty good job ignoring the kool-aid drinkers!
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| Aqua Letifer | Mar 22 2006, 02:25 PM Post #99 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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Are you serious? |
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| The 89th Key | Mar 22 2006, 02:25 PM Post #100 |
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No. I think we can get the job done despite those wacky libs!
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