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Missing girl is sending mom text messages; ..."Help. I'm Scared." etc
Topic Started: Mar 8 2006, 02:10 PM (366 Views)
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http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/03/08/D8G7JPR80.html

JERSEY CITY, N.J.

Since her 13-year-old daughter vanished Monday, Stella Browne says she has been getting text messages from the girl saying that someone followed her and that she woke up in a dark basement.

"Help. I'm scared. I don't know where I am," one of the text messages that Natasha Browne sent her mother said, Stella Browne told The Jersey Journal of Jersey City for Wednesday's newspapers.

The message went on to say: "Someone was following me and I just don't remember what happened. I just woke up in a basement. I'm scared."

Jersey City police have classified Browne's disappearance as suspicious. They planned to hold a 3 p.m. news conference to discuss their investigation.

Browne went missing Monday morning after leaving home for school. Her mother said she's only received text messages from her daughter, and that she has not called nor is she answering her cell phone.

"At this point, because of the circumstances surrounding this case, we are strongly and actively pursuing all means to find this young lady," said police Lt. Joseph Connors.
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Geez, that's horrible!

I s'pose what the mom should do is to say keep her phone off until such and such a time, then call me and stay on the line so the police can trace the call. If she's texting, she should probably be able to call out, too.

I cite irreconcilable differences.
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True, and of course it would be hard not to, but I would encourage the mom not to call back...could give the kidnapper an idea of if and where the kid's phone is.

Good plan with the tracing/planning idea.
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I'm skeptical. This is very similar to a recent episode of Law & Order.
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Mar 8 2006, 06:55 PM
I'm skeptical. This is very similar to a recent episode of Law & Order.

I didn't know about the Law and Order episode, but I'm skeptical as well.

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This is a question for cellular network experts... is there enough information logged by the service provider to figure out from whence a particular text message was sent?

Suppose the mom gives the daughter's phone number to the cell phone service providers, would that be sufficient for the service providers to turn on whatever call tracing facilities they have to trace any activity from that phone, perhaps down to a particular cellular coverage area?
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Mar 8 2006, 09:42 PM
This is a question for cellular network experts... is there enough information logged by the service provider to figure out from whence a particular text message was sent?

Suppose the mom gives the daughter's phone number to the cell phone service providers, would that be sufficient for the service providers to turn on whatever call tracing facilities they have to trace any activity from that phone, perhaps down to a particular cellular coverage area?

That's how 911 service for cell phones works.

This whole thing sounds like a hoax. If she can text-message, she can call 911.
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Ditto.

I think its a hoax.
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E911 Phase II mandates autolocation. The service provider has the choice of making it handset based (through onboard GPS) or network based (through combinations of triangulation and time of arrival schemes at the cell site). Most providers have opted for the latter because it does not involve replacing every handset in service. No service provider is bound to implement E911 PII until there local PSAP (which is where all the information is collected) notifies the service provider that they are E911 PII ready. My guess is that Garden City, NJ is. Bottom lne is one call to 911 and they will know where she is. Maybe she is just too dumb to call 911? In that case, either her mother would text message her back with instructions to call 911 or, most likely, her mother would notify the police and the next text message by her daughter would be the same as a 911 call.

Does that about cover it?
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They've triangulated the location twice. Each time was a different location. One was a residential neighborhood, the second was a mall. Plus, she had told her friend the day before that she wouldn't be in school that day because of a doctors appointment. Needless to say, there was no appointment. I pray I'm right, though, and they find her before something bad happens.
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she's turned up and seems well enough according to:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,187333,00.html
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That's what I was afraid of. Girl runs off, pulls a teenager version of the Runaway Bride, and decides she'll lay low. Not realizing that she's putting herself into a position where her fiction can become fact. Again, I pray I'm wrong, and the girl is inventing the rape as she invented the other aspects of her kidnapping.
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Mar 9 2006, 12:37 AM
E911 Phase II mandates autolocation. The service provider has the choice of making it handset based (through onboard GPS) or network based (through combinations of triangulation and time of arrival schemes at the cell site). Most providers have opted for the latter because it does not involve replacing every handset in service. No service provider is bound to implement E911 PII until there local PSAP (which is where all the information is collected) notifies the service provider that they are E911 PII ready. My guess is that Garden City, NJ is. Bottom lne is one call to 911 and they will know where she is. Maybe she is just too dumb to call 911? In that case, either her mother would text message her back with instructions to call 911 or, most likely, her mother would notify the police and the next text message by her daughter would be the same as a 911 call.

Does that about cover it?

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Mar 9 2006, 04:03 PM
JBryan
Mar 9 2006, 12:37 AM
E911 Phase II mandates autolocation. The service provider has the choice of making it handset based (through onboard GPS) or network based (through combinations of triangulation and time of arrival schemes at the cell site). Most providers have opted for the latter because it does not involve replacing every handset in service. No service provider is bound to implement E911 PII until there local PSAP (which is where all the information is collected) notifies the service provider that they are E911 PII ready. My guess is that Garden City, NJ is. Bottom lne is one call to 911 and they will know where she is. Maybe she is just too dumb to call 911? In that case, either her mother would text message her back with instructions to call 911 or, most likely, her mother would notify the police and the next text message by her daughter would be the same as a 911 call.

Does that about cover it?

Beautiful. Thanks! :thumb:

A couple of years ago, I was looking at getting one of those watches for kids with the GPS locator in it. The watch cannot be taken off without a special key, and if it's cut off, it sends an emergency signal to 911. It's very useful not just for cases like this, but also in minor emergencies (say you get seperated in the mall?). I was even thinking about looking into a franchise with the company. Seems like an excellent product that serves a great need.
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My mom always used a leash. :whome:
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