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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 25 2006, 06:35 AM (277 Views) | |
| Optimistic | Jan 25 2006, 06:35 AM Post #1 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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[size=7]Mexican migrants to get US maps [/size] A Mexican government agency is to issue some 70,000 maps marking main roads and water tanks for people wanting to cross illegally into the US. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4645782.stm The National Human Rights Commission says the maps will be aimed at cutting the death toll among migrants. US advocates of tougher border controls have criticised the move, saying it will encourage illegal immigration. Relations between the US and Mexico have cooled recently over US plans to build a fence on parts of the border. The map plan is backed by Humane Borders, a US-based organisation which operates about 70 emergency water stations near the 3,200-km (2,000-mile) border. 'Not helpful Launching the project in Mexico City, officials from Mexico's Human Rights Commission (HRC) flatly denied they were trying to encourage greater migration. "The only thing we are trying to do is warn them of the risks they face and where to get water, so they don't die," said Mauricio Farah of the HRC. But a spokesman for the US homeland security department said maps would not improve safety for those trying to cross the border. "It is not helpful for anyone, no matter how well intended they might be, to produce road maps that lead aliens into the desolate and dangerous areas along the border, and potentially invite criminal activity, human exploitation and personal risk," said Russ Knocke. Each year thousands of Mexicans breach the frontier and attempt to cross the parched Sonoran Desert. Some 500 died last year while making the journey, the HRC said. Last year the Mexican government issued comic-book style pamphlets warning of the dangers of illegal migration, while also giving advice on how to stay safe. |
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PHOTOS I must have a prodigious quantity of mind; it takes me as much as a week, sometimes, to make it up. - Mark Twain We shall not cease from exploration And the end of all our exploring Will be to arrive where we started And know the place for the first time. -T. S. Eliot | |
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| Axtremus | Jan 25 2006, 06:42 AM Post #2 |
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We really ought to start a large media/publicity campaign to tell them just how terrible a place the US actually is so they don't want to come here in the first place. |
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| JBryan | Jan 25 2006, 06:43 AM Post #3 |
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Why don't they just drive them across? |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| Axtremus | Jan 25 2006, 06:49 AM Post #4 |
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Ssshhhhhh! Don't give them ideas! |
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| Optimistic | Jan 25 2006, 07:10 AM Post #5 |
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I haven't really heard anything about how the illegal immigration/border control/wall-building issue is factoring into the 2006 Mexico election. Anybody know anything about this? Schindler? |
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PHOTOS I must have a prodigious quantity of mind; it takes me as much as a week, sometimes, to make it up. - Mark Twain We shall not cease from exploration And the end of all our exploring Will be to arrive where we started And know the place for the first time. -T. S. Eliot | |
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| sue | Jan 25 2006, 08:04 AM Post #6 |
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Looks like we need to do that for our border, too! Shooting at the Peace Arch |
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| sue | Jan 25 2006, 08:16 AM Post #7 |
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wow. so 500 died, from lack of water? very sad situation. Is this one the areas a fence is being considered? |
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| Optimistic | Jan 26 2006, 12:21 PM Post #8 |
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[size=7]Mexico Halts Border Maps Hand-Out[/size] http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060126/ap_on_...co_migrant_maps MEXICO CITY - Mexico will suspend its plan to distribute maps to migrants wanting to cross the U.S. border illegally, but an official said Thursday the decision was not made because of American pressure. Miguel Angel Paredes, spokesman for the federal Human Rights Commission, said the government wanted to "rethink" its plan because human rights officials in border states expressed concern that the maps would show anti-immigrant groups — like the Minutemen civilian patrols — where migrants likely would gather. "This would be practically like telling the Minutemen where the migrants are going to be," Paredes said. "We are going to rethink this, so that we wouldn't almost be handing them over to groups that attack migrants." On Wednesday, U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the United States opposed the plan "in the strongest terms." He said the effort would lead more people to cross the border, "leading to more migrant deaths and the further enrichment of the criminal human trafficking rings." Paredes was asked if the Mexican decision was a response to U.S. pressure. "No, we are not responding to that," he said. "We have not taken that into account." The commission, a Mexican government-funded agency with independent powers, originally said it would print and pay for at least 70,000 maps showing highways, rescue beacons and water tanks in the Arizona desert. The posters were to have been distributed in border towns and through human rights offices in Mexico starting in March, when illegal border crossings are usually high. The commission denied the maps would encourage illegal immigration, saying instead they would help guide those in trouble. Now, the group will "seek other ways" to help migrants, Paredes said. |
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PHOTOS I must have a prodigious quantity of mind; it takes me as much as a week, sometimes, to make it up. - Mark Twain We shall not cease from exploration And the end of all our exploring Will be to arrive where we started And know the place for the first time. -T. S. Eliot | |
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| schindler | Jan 26 2006, 12:24 PM Post #9 |
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Fulla-Carp
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To be honest, I don't even know who is running.
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| Optimistic | Jan 26 2006, 12:25 PM Post #10 |
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Good for nuthin'!
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PHOTOS I must have a prodigious quantity of mind; it takes me as much as a week, sometimes, to make it up. - Mark Twain We shall not cease from exploration And the end of all our exploring Will be to arrive where we started And know the place for the first time. -T. S. Eliot | |
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| schindler | Jan 26 2006, 12:27 PM Post #11 |
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I resent that. I just got finished with a week of being good for everything. Cook, waiter, dishwasher, mason, metal worker, ditch digger, and on my own time, gymnast. So there!
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| Optimistic | Jan 26 2006, 12:28 PM Post #12 |
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What for? |
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PHOTOS I must have a prodigious quantity of mind; it takes me as much as a week, sometimes, to make it up. - Mark Twain We shall not cease from exploration And the end of all our exploring Will be to arrive where we started And know the place for the first time. -T. S. Eliot | |
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| schindler | Jan 26 2006, 12:34 PM Post #13 |
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Getting ready for a retreat. My dad and I camped out at our land for a week to be able to finish in time. It turned out that the retreat was canceled at the last minute. Just found out today. I was/am SO ticked off. Have you ever not showered for 6 days? |
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| Optimistic | Jan 26 2006, 12:38 PM Post #14 |
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That sounds AWESOME! Your life thus far seems to have been so interesting. Shame about the retreat being cancelled, though. I think the longest I've ever gone without showering is only 2, MAYBE 3 days. I thought that kind of stuff isn't supposed to bother guys? |
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PHOTOS I must have a prodigious quantity of mind; it takes me as much as a week, sometimes, to make it up. - Mark Twain We shall not cease from exploration And the end of all our exploring Will be to arrive where we started And know the place for the first time. -T. S. Eliot | |
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| schindler | Jan 26 2006, 12:39 PM Post #15 |
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My life has been very eventful, let's put it that way. About the showering thing not bothering guys, or me at least. . .
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