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chocolat
Topic Started: Jan 23 2006, 08:53 PM (465 Views)
bachophile
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just saw it. for the first time.

beautiful movie.

i see that whole village here in the TNCR.
"I don't know much about classical music. For years I thought the Goldberg Variations were something Mr. and Mrs. Goldberg did on their wedding night." Woody Allen
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DivaDeb
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bachophile
Jan 23 2006, 08:53 PM
just saw it. for the first time.

beautiful movie.

i see that whole village here in the TNCR.

It's one of my favorite's, Bach! My daughter and I watch it together pretty frequently...and we have chocolate while we're watching it! I love Vianne.
Edit: I just remembered that I have this recipe!

Vianne's Spiced Hot Chocolate


Serves 2

400ml full-fat milk
half a vanilla pod, cut in half lengthways
half a cinnamon stick
1 hot (red) chilli, halved and de-seeded
100g dark chocolate (70 per cent cocoa)
unrefined brown sugar to taste
whipped cream, chocolate curls, cognac or Amaretto to serve

Place the milk in a saucepan, add the vanilla pod, cinnamon stick and seedless chilli and gently bring it to a shivering simmer for 1 minute. Grate the chocolate and whisk it in until it melts. If you must, then add sugar, but do try it without. Take off the heat and allow it to infuse for 10 minutes, then remove the spices, return to the heat and bring gently back to simmering point. Serve in mugs topped with whipped cream, chocolate curls or a dash of cognac or Amaretto.

I usually take mine neat :)

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LWpianistin
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i LOVE that movie! :cool:
And how are you today?
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sue
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Great movie. :thumb:
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Freedom
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I don't think i've ever seen it :(

"A wise man feareth, and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident."

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big al
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Good movie. Check it out, Freedom.

Thanks for the recipe, Deb. Should be just the thing for a winter night.

Big Al
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"jesu, der simcha fun der man's farlangen."
-bachophile
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Shammy
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Where do you find the vanilla pods? I'd like to try that recipe.
I'd rather fall into chocolate.
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Friday
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You can find vanilla pods in the bakery section of most grocery stores.
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Optimistic
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There are two versions of this film, no?

Which one is everyone referring to?
PHOTOS

I must have a prodigious quantity of mind; it takes me as much as a week, sometimes, to make it up.
- Mark Twain


We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.
-T. S. Eliot
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DivaDeb
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I am referring to the film with Juliette Binoche and Johnny Depp. Because Bach talked about the people in the village that are in the film reminding him of people here, I assume that he is talking about this film as well.
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bachophile
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yes yes.

and dont ask me to name names, the analogies will stay in my own head....
"I don't know much about classical music. For years I thought the Goldberg Variations were something Mr. and Mrs. Goldberg did on their wedding night." Woody Allen
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Optimistic
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Mmmm yes, Johnny Depp. I liked that version, too ^_^
PHOTOS

I must have a prodigious quantity of mind; it takes me as much as a week, sometimes, to make it up.
- Mark Twain


We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.
-T. S. Eliot
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big al
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Same here. I wasn't aware of another version. I'll have to look up details.

[Edit] ok, I looked up the other version on IMDB. Here's what one reviewer there said about the movie.

"Set in the Cameroons in West Africa in the 1950s, Claire Denis' Chocolat is a beautifully photographed and emotionally resonant tone poem that depicts the effects of a dying colonialism on a young family during the last years of French rule. The theme is similar to the recent Nowhere in Africa, though the films are vastly different in scope and emphasis. The film is told from the perspective of an adult returning to her childhood home in a foreign country. France Dalens (Mireille Perrier), a young woman traveling through Cameroon, recalls her childhood when her father (Francois Cluzet) was a government official in the French Cameroons and she had a loving friendship with the brooding manservant, Protée (Isaach de Bankolé). The heart of the film, however, revolves around France's mother Aimée (Giulia Boschi) and her love/hate relationship with Protée that is seething with unspoken sexual tension."

The household is divided into public and private spaces. The white families rooms are private and off limits to all except Protée who works in the house while the servants are forced to eat and shower outdoors, exposing their naked bronze bodies to the white family's gazes. It becomes clear when her husband Marc (François Cluzet) goes away on business that Aimée and Protée are sexually attracted to each other but the rules of society prevent it from being openly acknowledged. In one telling sequence, she invites him into her bedroom to help her put on her dress and the two stare at each other's image in the mirror with a defiant longing in their eyes, knowing that any interaction is taboo."

The young France (Cecile Ducasse) also forms a bond with the manservant, feeding him from her plate while he shows her how to eat crushed ants and carries her on his shoulders in walks beneath the nocturnal sky. In spite of their bond, the true nature of their master-servant relationship is apparent when France commands Protée to interrupt his conversation with a teacher and immediately take her home, and when Protée stands beside her at the dinner table, waiting for her next command. When a plane loses its propeller and is forced to land in the nearby mountains, the crew and passengers must move into the compound until a replacement part can be located. Each visitor shows their disdain for the Africans, one, a wealthy owner of a coffee plantation brings leftover food from the kitchen to his black mistress hiding in his room. Another, Luc (Jean-Claude Adelin), an arrogant white Frenchman, upsets the racial balance when he uses the outside shower, eats with the servants, and taunts Aimée about her attraction to Protée leading her to a final emotional confrontation with the manservant."

Chocolat is loosely autobiographical, adapted from the childhood memories of the director, and is slowly paced and as mysterious as the brooding isolation of the land on which it is filmed. Denis makes her point about the effects of colonialism without preaching or romanticizing the characters. There are no victims or oppressors, no simplistic good guys. Protée is a servant but he is also a protector as when he stands guard over the bed where Aimée and her daughter sleep to protect them from a rampaging hyena. It is a sad fact that Protée is treated as a boy and not as a man, but Bankolé imbues his character with such dignity and stature that it lessens the pain. Because of its pace, Western audiences may have to work hard to fully appreciate the film and Denis does not, in Roger Ebert's phrase, "coach our emotions". The truth of Chocolat lies in the gestures and glances that touch the silent longing of our heart."

Sounds like it might be worth seeking out, too.
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Big Al
Location: Western PA

"jesu, der simcha fun der man's farlangen."
-bachophile
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DivaDeb
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bachophile
Jan 24 2006, 10:03 AM
yes yes.

and dont ask me to name names, the analogies will stay in my own head....

as well they should

(but if they make an opera, I get to be Vianne :P )
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Fish
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Have you read the book, Chocolat, too? I read the book (by Joanne Harris) before I saw the film and I thought it was excellent, although I also enjoyed the film. Since then and as a result of reading Chocolat I've read and enjoyed two other books by Joanne Harris.

~Andrea.
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DivaDeb
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thanks for the heads up on the book, Andrea...I have not read it. I'll look for it (I buy mostly used books)
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I'd second the reading recommendation. I read:

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by the same author and thoroughly enjoyed it.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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DivaDeb
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cool...thanks John
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bachophile
Jan 23 2006, 09:53 PM
just saw it. for the first time.

beautiful movie.

i see that whole village here in the TNCR.

I call dibs on being Johnny Depp!

"I'll come 'round sometime and get that squeak out of your door."
The dogma lives loudly within me.
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Jan 24 2006, 08:39 PM

"I'll come 'round sometime and get that squeak out of your door."

Who are you calling a squeak?
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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bachophile
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im still trying to place the imaginary kangaroo pantoufle here in the forum.


any takers?
"I don't know much about classical music. For years I thought the Goldberg Variations were something Mr. and Mrs. Goldberg did on their wedding night." Woody Allen
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apple
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i don't know what it is but if it's edible i'd try it.
it behooves me to behold
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DivaDeb
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hmmm...Bach...I really like thinking about that. Actually, apple would kind of get my vote for Pantoufle, not because she's imaginary, but because she's little, cute and very concise...almost to the point of silence sometimes. But even when she doesn't say much, or says very little, you know she's there, thinking her fun but deep thoughts.

Maybe that makes no sense. But it does to me. :P
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apple
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oh i remember that great movie... in a french village with the sanctimonious priest and
it behooves me to behold
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DivaDeb
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we need to have a Chocolat party...Merry just loves the movie....just you and me, apple and the little girls...and a load of chocolate! wouldn't that be FUN???
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