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On 9/11 was there any part of you that wondered if Saddam was responsible?
Yes 10 (58.8%)
No 7 (41.2%)
Total Votes: 17
On 9/11......
Topic Started: Dec 6 2005, 09:20 AM (215 Views)
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A simple yes or no answer. No but-monkeys allowed. While OBL was obviously at the top of the list, did you consider that Hussein might be responsible as well? Was he on your list of suspects? Did you think he was capable, both morally and personally of doing this?
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The question asked is: "Did any part of you think..."

The question is not "Did Saddam..."

I remember thinking, "The son of the man that waged war against Iraq is president now. Saddam seeks vengeance"
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Oh yeah, I had suspicions abound! Saddam, Osama, Neo-Nazis, Col. Klink, the list goes on!
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Saddam was the obvious choice, IMO...he tried to kill Bush Sr, and hates the USA for whooping his ass ten years earlier.
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Whether he personally was involved, or whether the network and the resources that were part of his regime, is immaterial.

In America, PETA climbs into bed with pro-lifers to advance their goals. I suspect the same of Iraq and AQ. OBL wanted a jihad against Saddam for Kuwait, but as a Sunni had as much against the Shi'ites. The fact of the aggression against Kuwait was in response for the failure of the Kuwaiti to pay the blood debt in oil for Iraq waging the war against Iranian aggression. When it serves the interests of parties to put aside ideological differences for a greater cause, everyone does -- the US is certainly no exception.

The best analogy I've heard is with the mafia -- they all fight each other over turf, but are all unified in circling the wagons against the feds. It doesn't take a smoking gun to believe that the Gambino family and the Bonanno family and the Lucchese family worked together when necessary.



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I'm curious who the no voter is. Anybody willing to take a stand?
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Dec 6 2005, 10:19 AM
I'm curious who the no voter is. Anybody willing to take a stand?

I voted no.

As soon as it was clear the attack was the work of bin Ladin, I knew Hussein was not involved. The very idea of some sort of direct common cause between two people who would willingly destroy each other never made any sense to me.
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Rick Zimmer
Dec 6 2005, 01:26 PM
As soon as it was clear the attack was the work of bin Ladin, I knew Hussein was not involved

Rick, I dont' think that was the question. The issue at hand is "On 9/11 did you think....." That's why I voted yes.
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Dec 6 2005, 10:26 AM
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Dec 6 2005, 10:19 AM
I'm curious who the no voter is. Anybody willing to take a stand?

I voted no.

As soon as it was clear the attack was the work of bin Ladin, I knew Hussein was not involved. The very idea of some sort of direct common cause between two people who would willingly destroy each other never made any sense to me.

What made you come to the conclusion that Saddam and Osama Bin Laden wanted to destroy each other?
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How soon was "as soon as it became clear"? What was your list of suspects before it became clear?

M&M's, there has always been contention between Al Quaeda and Iraq, as Iraq was a secular government. OBL has threatened Hussein in the past.
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Dec 6 2005, 11:00 AM
How soon was "as soon as it became clear"? What was your list of suspects before it became clear?

M&M's, there has always been contention between Al Quaeda and Iraq, as Iraq was a secular government. OBL has threatened Hussein in the past.

Oh.
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The idea that they would never cooperate with each other against their greater enemy (us) is preposterous.
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I voted 'No'. I thought it was Bin-Laden. For some reason Saddam didn't cross my mind. I didn't actually think it was his style, it was more the type of thing a fanatic would do than a secular dictator.
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Also true John...this wasn't Hussein's style at all. However, he was the #1 suspect, IMO. I'll admit, before 9/11, I had never heard of OBL before.
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Dec 6 2005, 03:07 PM
I voted 'No'. I thought it was Bin-Laden. For some reason Saddam didn't cross my mind. I didn't actually think it was his style, it was more the type of thing a fanatic would do than a secular dictator.

Fair enough. I was 85% convinced it was Bin Laden as well, for two reasons:

A. The trial in NY that was scheduled to begin that day for one of his people.

B. The fact that it was the WTC again.

However, Hussein did cross my mind as well.
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Dec 6 2005, 03:34 PM
Also true John...this wasn't Hussein's style at all. However, he was the #1 suspect, IMO. I'll admit, before 9/11, I had never heard of OBL before.

What is Hussein's style?

OK, we've had 2 of the no voters speak up, without being attacked. Anybody else?
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I voted yes, but I think Hussein's style is more direct, more civilized, if you can call it that. He's more vocal about it and more open. He is very proud. It doesn't seem like he would fight scrappy like that...

Terrorists on the other hand, with no national affiliation, use whatever they can. Trucks, boats, bombs, deception...tactics I don't see Saddam using.
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