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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 4 2005, 06:15 PM (1,218 Views) | |
| John D'Oh | Dec 5 2005, 12:37 PM Post #51 |
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Is sh*t head army speak for people who disagree with them, or with what Bush is doing? For those of you who find it offensive that some of us may disagree with your marvelous leader, guess what, the word sh*t head is pretty offensive too, and actually says more about your narrow-mindedness than it does about our stupidity. I keep doing this, but: lib·er·al ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lbr-l, lbrl) adj. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded. Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism. Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States. Tending to give freely; generous: a liberal benefactor. Generous in amount; ample: a liberal serving of potatoes. Not strict or literal; loose or approximate: a liberal translation. Of, relating to, or based on the traditional arts and sciences of a college or university curriculum: a liberal education. Archaic. Permissible or appropriate for a person of free birth; befitting a lady or gentleman. Obsolete. Morally unrestrained; licentious. n. A person with liberal ideas or opinions. Liberal A member of a Liberal political party. |
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| lb1 | Dec 5 2005, 01:14 PM Post #52 |
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Well John Duh, I will admit to my narrow-mindness when it comes to the liberal attempt to subvert the administrations effort to destroy our enemies. My narrow-minded use of the term sh*t head, other than being offensive, harms no one. Where as the retoric used by the radical liberals does put our soldiers in harms way. Take that from an Army Ranger who isn't narrow-minded. lb |
| My position is simple: you jumped to an unwarranted conclusion and slung mud on an issue where none was deserved. Quirt 03/08/09 | |
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| lb1 | Dec 5 2005, 01:18 PM Post #53 |
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Quirt, It is because of the Holiday Spirit that I raised you up several notches from where the Sargent placed you. In 21 days I will tell you what I really think. lb |
| My position is simple: you jumped to an unwarranted conclusion and slung mud on an issue where none was deserved. Quirt 03/08/09 | |
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| John D'Oh | Dec 5 2005, 01:44 PM Post #54 |
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You just said Liberal. You didn't say radical liberal. By radical, presumably you mean 'extreme', rather than someone who wishes to challenge the root of issues. I'm not what is sometimes referred to as a radical liberal. I don't believe the US should have gone into Iraq, however now that we're there I believe that we should carry on with the path we're taking, and give our troops full support in their very difficult and dangerous job. I'm not trying to undermine anyone, but I do feel that anyone who disagrees with the war is very quickly being labelled with some pretty offensive names, and I find that extremely regrettable. If people can't debate these issues without resorting to personal abuse and ad-hominem attacks, then it doesn't say much for their arguments, and implies a lack of respect for opposing viewpoints. Your use of the word 'sh*t-head' may not harm anyone, but it undermines your argument. It also tends to lead to tit-for-tat exchanges, with both sides using personal abuse rather than logic. Nice play on words with my name, by the way, although not as funny as the original, IMNSHO. |
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| lb1 | Dec 5 2005, 01:55 PM Post #55 |
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Well John, as a Catholic, I find you avitar, as you intended, offensive and insulting. So you struck first blow, accept what you get. lb |
| My position is simple: you jumped to an unwarranted conclusion and slung mud on an issue where none was deserved. Quirt 03/08/09 | |
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| John D'Oh | Dec 5 2005, 02:02 PM Post #56 |
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No, I honestly didn't intend to insult anyone, and I apologise for any offense given. Father Jack is a character in a comedy program which I (as well as a lot of my Roman Catholic friends) happen to find very funny. If you would prefer me to change my avatar, I will do so. |
| What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket? | |
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| Aqua Letifer | Dec 5 2005, 02:07 PM Post #57 |
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Well, I suppose I'll stick up for John, seein' as how I'm a Catholic and I think his avatar's pretty darn hilarious (Father Jack's a riot.) |
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| ***musical princess*** | Dec 5 2005, 02:08 PM Post #58 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Yup - i'm a Catholic and i love Father Ted and the rest of them. x |
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| sue | Dec 5 2005, 02:26 PM Post #59 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I'm not catholic, but I have a sense of humour. Everyone should have one. |
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| George K | Dec 5 2005, 03:13 PM Post #60 |
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Sue, everyone thinks they have a sense of humo(u)r. (that's for John!) Even if they don't! (And not saying that you don't!!!!!)
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| ***musical princess*** | Dec 5 2005, 03:14 PM Post #61 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Oooh, bitchy, George!![]() x |
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| sue | Dec 5 2005, 03:22 PM Post #62 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Do you think so George? You're probably right, but I've met people, (and I don't mean anyone here, I was just being glib) as I'm sure we all have, that really, seriously do not have a sense of humour. Or so it seems, anyways. I find people like that hard to talk to, it's like there is something missing. I've never asked, but wonder if they really do feel they have one. Who knows? Who cares?
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| QuirtEvans | Dec 5 2005, 03:40 PM Post #63 |
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Oh yes, please do. I'm deeply interested in what an ignorant, vicious blowhard thinks of me. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| George K | Dec 5 2005, 04:17 PM Post #64 |
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I also know people, many people with absolutely no sense of humor. They make me laugh.. The sad thing is that they think they do. I had an encounter with a co-worker several weeks ago (and I'll stop hijacking this thread!). He walked into where I was and said, "I see all the good people are gone, so I'm stuck with you." Later on he asked me "Do you have the technology to do that" referring to a simple thing. Finally, I called his bluff. "Gee George you don't have to be condescending!" I ripped him a new one..."Condescending, ME?? Who's the one with the wiseass remarks about competence, etc..." "Gee, I was only joking." Everyone thinks they have a sense of humor - even if they don't. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| lb1 | Dec 5 2005, 04:38 PM Post #65 |
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I find the parody of any religion, from Buhdism to Catholicism, offensive and insulting. This is a recent practice and indicates how far our society has declined. Keep your avitar john, you have admitted that you are humored by it, so changing your skin will not change you. lb |
| My position is simple: you jumped to an unwarranted conclusion and slung mud on an issue where none was deserved. Quirt 03/08/09 | |
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| John D'Oh | Dec 5 2005, 04:47 PM Post #66 |
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I'm very sorry that I offended you, lb. I'd like to state in all seriousness, however, that I believe parody of all institutions, political, social and otherwise, is healthy. I believe it is infinitely preferable to be free to laugh at these institutions, than to be subject to the tyranny that they were once free to wield. One of my great heroes is Galileo Galileo. I can guarantee that he wasn't laughing much in his later years. |
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| lb1 | Dec 5 2005, 04:56 PM Post #67 |
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I was raised to respect these institutions, all of them. To disagree is not disrespect. To publicly ridicule is disrespect. lb |
| My position is simple: you jumped to an unwarranted conclusion and slung mud on an issue where none was deserved. Quirt 03/08/09 | |
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| QuirtEvans | Dec 5 2005, 04:57 PM Post #68 |
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Good-natured, gentle ribbing, John. Parody is also fair play in politics. Mean-spirited, vicious humor about religions, or gender, or any other classification that separates one person from another serves no useful purpose. I do agree that our society has far too big a stick up its butt, and can't laugh at anything any more. But swinging the pendulum too far in the other direction would be harmful. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| John D'Oh | Dec 5 2005, 05:03 PM Post #69 |
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I don't believe that the intent is to ridicule, rather to parody. My lack of Christian faith aside, I don't agree with some of the teachings of the Roman Catholic church, however I do respect much of what it stands for, and I believe that the Christian message is one of great beauty and wisdom, even though I'm not a Christian. The program 'Father Ted' is laughing more at the sometimes rather comical church as it exists in rural Ireland than at the Roman Catholic church in general. I have some relatives who grew up in Ireland, and they tell me that the portrayal is actually unfortunately rather realistic at times. |
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| lb1 | Dec 5 2005, 05:11 PM Post #70 |
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par'o-dy, n. pl. -dies, v,-died, -dying --n. 1. humorous imitation. 2. imitate in ridicule. Need I say more? lb |
| My position is simple: you jumped to an unwarranted conclusion and slung mud on an issue where none was deserved. Quirt 03/08/09 | |
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| apple | Dec 5 2005, 05:43 PM Post #71 |
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of course on a public forum, as in society today, one is free to be as rude and insensitive to other's feelings as one wishes practically. Failing to consider other's feelings reflects on one's character, whether it is insensitivity to one's sexual choice, religion, family in the military or holiday practices.. i like politeness and am enraged by callous disregard for civility as I am sure are others as is reflected in their insensitive posts.. |
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| Rick Zimmer | Dec 5 2005, 05:44 PM Post #72 |
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Oh for God's sake! Read Chaucer's Canterbury Tales. |
| [size=4]Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul -- Benedict XVI[/size] | |
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| QuirtEvans | Dec 5 2005, 05:52 PM Post #73 |
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Like calling someone a sh*thead and starting a flame war? Why is it that your calls for sensitivity and consideration don't start when the first insult from your right side friends is tossed out? Your desire for civility rings somewhat hollow when it comes so late in the game. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| lb1 | Dec 5 2005, 06:00 PM Post #74 |
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I am not calling for sensitivity and consideration, what gave you that idea? I was just pointing out what I consider offensive and who struck the first blow. Sensitivity and consideration? It ain't going to happen here. Now that you know what I consider offensive, have at it. lb |
| My position is simple: you jumped to an unwarranted conclusion and slung mud on an issue where none was deserved. Quirt 03/08/09 | |
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| apple | Dec 5 2005, 06:02 PM Post #75 |
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Quirt.. i've been around a long time and have berated many on the right that call to civility certainly wasn't addressed to those on the left considering i was thinking of many of the insensitive posts on homosexuality that have been made by some of my 'friends'. i am not offended by any stupid priest avatar and i didn't say i was so please don't take my post out of context. |
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