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| Karl Rove is gay | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 6 2005, 02:06 PM (1,451 Views) | |
| Larry | Nov 6 2005, 05:23 PM Post #26 |
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Finally, an honest answer. You are motivated by hate, a hatred caused purely by your ideology. An ideology that uses the politics of personal destruction, that tells lies until they become "fact", that is willing to sacrifice it's principles at the drop of a hat if needed in order to attack what they don't like. You don't like Rove, so you allow your entire political viewpoint, your principles, your integrity, to be dictated purely by this hatred, not because of anything Rove has done to you personally, not because of anything specific you can cite to support your claims that he has harmed people - a hatred driven purely because he is part of the Bush administration. At least you were finally honest enough to admit that. Of course it only confirms my earlier statement - the Left suffer from a mental disorder, and should never ever again be allowed to control the fate of this country. |
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| QuirtEvans | Nov 6 2005, 05:42 PM Post #27 |
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As usual, a weasel shows his true fur. I said that I didn't care whether Rove is gay or not. I said that it was his own private business, not anyone else's, and that it's wrong for the homosexual community to out closet homosexuals who choose to remain in the closet. That's their choice, and they are entitled to make it. And Curly couldn't help bashing me anyway, even though I said we shouldn't speculate about Rove's sexuality, even though I'm defending Rove's right to privacy, even though Rove's a guy I don't like or respect very much. Maybe that makes you something lower than a weasel, Curly. Maybe that makes you a cockroach. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| John D'Oh | Nov 6 2005, 05:43 PM Post #28 |
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I do think there's a few difficult questions that need asking over a situation such as this. When does a politician or public figure become fair game? Let's be honest, we all get a bit (sometimes quite a bit more than a bit) of pleasure when someone on the opposing side screws up, or is shown to be less than perfect, or to have a skeleton in their closet (no pun intended )In addition, we all feel mightily offended when it's someone on our side, or someone we like/respect/whatever who is the subject of the scandal, derision, etc. Are public figures fair game, because they're public? It's not just politicians - look at Tom Cruise. Granted, I find the guy extremely annoying, and his involvement with the L-Ron Rons, and his singularly ill-informed rants about mental health do somewhat provide an easy target, but does that mean we're justified in firing at him? If someone does something clearly unethical, or illegal, he deserves to be exposed. Likewise, if someone is guilty of clear hypocrisy - for example he's been busy extolling traditional family values and he's found to be humping his secretary (doing a Cecil Parkinson, as it's known in the UK) then he's probably got it coming. Sexuality is normally considered to be a private matter. Surely it should be someone's choice as to whether this is public knowledge. You can argue that someone owes it to other gay people to come out, as it will help reduce discrimination, however I don't believe it is fair to force this decision on others. In case all of the above sounds rather sanctimonious, I have to admit that I see political Press Secretaries and other Spin-doctors as one of the lower forms of life, and if anybody deserves the nasty treatment, they should probably be at the front of the queue. He who lives by the sword... |
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| kathyk | Nov 6 2005, 05:59 PM Post #29 |
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Rove is DEFINITELY queer. I thought everyone knew that. jf |
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| kenny | Nov 6 2005, 06:03 PM Post #30 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Nasty? I was complimenting the man.
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| John D'Oh | Nov 6 2005, 06:04 PM Post #31 |
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I didn't. I still don't. I don't really care, to be honest. I don't much like the guy, at least his I don't like his public persona, but I don't like most people associated with politics. |
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| Jeffrey | Nov 6 2005, 06:04 PM Post #32 |
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Senior Carp
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kenny -
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| Larry | Nov 6 2005, 06:09 PM Post #33 |
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Excuse me sQuirt, but I wasn't talking to you. I didn't even mention you. I was talking to another brain dead Leftie. But now that you bring it up, you aren't off the hook either, because your "I think it's his own private business" amounted to nothing more than a "does he still beat his wife" type comment. No, you and Kathy both continue to drive more nails in your lefty coffin. I caught your hypocritical hands in the cookie jar, and you don't have any way out of it other than to do what you lefties always do - attack. Have at it, ambulance chasers. Your guilt is so obvious I don't have to do anything more now than sit back and watch you slobber. |
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| Larry | Nov 6 2005, 06:13 PM Post #34 |
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Watch a hypocrite at work: "I think Rove is gay." "Didn't you see my smiley indicating I was joking?" "I believe Rove is gay." "I know Rove is gay." "Everyone knows Rove is a queer." Liberal Leftwing nutbobs have no integrity. They will blatantly tell a lie, deny they lied, and then repeat the lie until it has been repeated so much others think it is fact. They they will repeat it as fact. If you challenge their lies, they will circle the wagons and attack, repeating the lie with even more conviction, even when everyone around them knows they are lying. |
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| QuirtEvans | Nov 6 2005, 06:18 PM Post #35 |
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Compare and contrast:
with the subsequent statement:
Curly, you can't even tell the truth within two pages of the same thread! Lying is just instinctive to you, isn't it? Next time, use the very few brain cells that you have to go back and edit your original post, so that people can't simply turn back a page and quote your lies right back at you. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| kenny | Nov 6 2005, 06:18 PM Post #36 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Malice? Calling someone gay is malice? Hope he gets lots of what ever turns him on. I hope that for everyone. |
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| kenny | Nov 6 2005, 06:23 PM Post #37 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Ya think Karl has ever given George a "Monica"? Nah, only straights are THAT immoral. Ya think Karl is more of a bottom, or a top? I may be able to find out. I know some guys in DC. |
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| kathyk | Nov 6 2005, 06:24 PM Post #38 |
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Pssst: I think Larry might be queer, too. JUST KIDDING! :lol: |
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| Larry | Nov 6 2005, 06:24 PM Post #39 |
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You accused me of bashing you, ambulance chaser. Inviting you to join in on a bashing of Kerry the way she was bashing Rove wasn't bashing you, and while I may have used your name, the fact remains I *still* wasn't talking to you. Paranoid little ****, aren't you? |
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| Larry | Nov 6 2005, 06:26 PM Post #40 |
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Kathy, I can think of one remote possible scenario where I would have to agree that I would switch sides....... |
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| kathyk | Nov 6 2005, 06:26 PM Post #41 |
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Pisa-Carp
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Larry - take a deep breath - now - - - - LAUGH~~~~!!!!! (it's healthy) |
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| QuirtEvans | Nov 6 2005, 06:29 PM Post #42 |
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I Owe It All To John D'Oh
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Congratulations, you just revealed your homophobia. You equated homosexuality with wife-beating. The reason my comments were NOT like a "does he still beat his wife" type comment is because I don't think there's anything wrong with homosexuality. It's not for me, but hey, different strokes for different folks. So, from my point of view, regardless of Rove's sexual orientation, there's no stigma attached to it. When I say that I don't care about his sexual orientation, I would think exactly the same of him whether he is heterosexual, homosexual, or asexual. It simply doesn't affect my opinion of him. You, on the other hand, clearly think that saying I don't care about Rove's sexual orientation carries some negative implication. It doesn't. It's between him and his wife. I don't recall any statement he's ever made publicly about his sexual orientation. He and his wife clearly think it's a private matter between them, and I think it should remain so. But clearly you think that being a homosexual is a bad thing. That's your problem, not mine. |
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| QuirtEvans | Nov 6 2005, 06:34 PM Post #43 |
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Compare and contrast, cockroach:
With:
And now you're trying to weasel your way out of your lies. |
| It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010. | |
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| Larry | Nov 6 2005, 06:34 PM Post #44 |
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What a perversion of what I wrote! Either that, or you aren't intelligent enough to follow what I wrote. Go ahead ambulance chaser - show everyone how a leftwing kook diverts the topic to something else and then attacks when his ass is in the wringer. Show everyone how far off the topic you'll go to avoid addressing the original statements which so you for what you are. |
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| kathyk | Nov 6 2005, 06:36 PM Post #45 |
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Pisa-Carp
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Guess you need to just face facts, Larry, Karl Rove is a girly boy!
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| QuirtEvans | Nov 6 2005, 06:37 PM Post #46 |
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Stop frothing at the mouth, cockroach. Slow down and type what you mean. You're starting to babble now:
As for me, I consistently say the same thing. Rove's sexual orientation is irrelevant. |
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| Larry | Nov 6 2005, 06:40 PM Post #47 |
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You seem to be of the opinion that this would bother me. It wouldn't matter to me one way or the other - so I guess that means that you and sQuirt are the ones playing the "gay" card. I'm simply using what you're doing to show concrete examples of your hypocrisy. You Lefties are staying true to form, that for sure..... not one of you have seriously addressed my points. All you've done is exactly what I said you'd do. Thanks. |
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| kenny | Nov 6 2005, 06:41 PM Post #48 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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NOT . . . . . . . . . when he is a major part of this administraion of hate. |
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| ryankj | Nov 6 2005, 06:42 PM Post #49 |
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Larry, kindly take whatever is lodged deep within the caverns of your anus and shove it in your mouth. Granted, I feel like an outsider since I only recently found this board. I haven't gotten to see the history of the board, and can't call these people my family. What I have noticed is this: you're a bully. Every post you make makes broad statements about liberals and your hatred towards them. Don't you realize this is what is tearing the country apart? People don't look to solve the problem, but rather, who caused it and how much of an asshole they are for doing that. Granted, both conservatives AND liberals are guilty of this. So either stop making generalizations about the entire population of liberals and bring unnecessary hate towards them, or get your deer hunting, sister humping, shoeless conservative ass a pacifier. |
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Meg: I can't believe this is happening to me. I can never go back to school again. Stewie: Oh yes Meg, yes, yes, yes, everything was going swimmingly for you until this. Yes, yes, this is the thing that will ruin your reputation. Not your years of grotesque appearance or awkward social graces, or that Felix Ungerish way you clean your sinuses. No, no, no, it's this. Do you hear yourself talk? I might kill you tonight. | |
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| QuirtEvans | Nov 6 2005, 06:45 PM Post #50 |
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Kenny, I have to disagree with you. Just because he is part of an Administration that takes some vile positions on homosexuality, that doesn't make his own sexuality a fair matter for comment. If there's some internal hypocrisy between his policy views and his own personal sexuality, so be it. It's still not right to start a discussion about what should be a personal matter. I also don't think Catholics in politics should be asked to reconcile their personal views on abortion with their church's views and their willingness to accept sacrament. Same sort of thing. |
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