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any opinions on photo editing software?
Topic Started: Nov 3 2005, 02:11 PM (535 Views)
sue
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I'm thinking of either Adobe Photoshop Elements 4.0 or Corel PaintShop Pro X.....both about the same price, just for home use/fun stuff. We are currently playing with a demo version of the paintshop; lots of really neat tools, but most people seem to recommend the adobe program. Anybody tried both?
Maybe they are similar and either one would be good??

:help: please! :whome:


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I have photoshop 3 and corel 2 and they are not similar at all. I like the filters that adobe photoshop has, I haven't figured either one of them very well, as I am more fond of my microsoft picture it photo 7 program. But maybe that's because it's simple...

I do a lot of messing around with images in it.

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Microsoft Photodraw is almost as good, and prob'ly a lot cheaper. Doesn't do all the hardcore stuff as Photoshop, but if you don't want to make record-breaking alterations, you might wanna look into it!
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Buy a Mac if you don't have one and use it's second to none iphoto ( soon to be beautifully out classed by Aperture i hope) for intro level ease, or get Adobe Photoshop for something you can grow into but not grow out of. I know many people who start with simple software and then outgrow it very quickly.
You're an atheist when considering Zeus, Apollo, Amon Ra, Mithras, Baal, Thor, Wotan, the Golden Calf and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.........I just go one God further.
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Macs Rule! :cool:
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Nov 3 2005, 02:15 PM
Microsoft Photodraw is almost as good, and prob'ly a lot cheaper. Doesn't do all the hardcore stuff as Photoshop, but if you don't want to make record-breaking alterations, you might wanna look into it!

just looked up photodraw...appears to be discontinued, but maybe the program jodi mentioned is the same creature, new name?
guess I should do more investigating!

thanks



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Nov 3 2005, 02:26 PM
Wacki! :thumb:

Macs Rule! :cool:

Like a democratic utopia nestled amongst the totalitarian hoards.

I have an iMac (easel)
A Powerbook 17"
A G5 Powermac.
An ipod and two Apple Studio Displays......................i'm not proud, i'm in love. :smile:
You're an atheist when considering Zeus, Apollo, Amon Ra, Mithras, Baal, Thor, Wotan, the Golden Calf and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.........I just go one God further.
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Nov 3 2005, 02:24 PM
Buy a Mac if you don't have one and use it's second to none iphoto ( soon to be beautifully out classed by Aperture i hope) for intro level ease, or get Adobe Photoshop for something you can grow into but not grow out of. I know many people who start with simple software and then outgrow it very quickly.

I was wondering about that....the full Photoshop is more than I want/need right now, but would the 'elements' version be something I'd grow out of quickly? Worth thinking about, thanks!


new computer is not in the picture, so to speak.
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Sue, I work in a graphics department at work, and started a small business, which does most of the work on graphical elements.

What I would recommend, is getting Adobe Photoshop 7.0 and Adobe Illustrator 10.0. You can get both for really cheap now, maybe 100 bucks total...and they are top of the line. If you need a site to go to, PM me, and I'll see what I can do.

Photoshop and Illustrator CS is actually an even more recent version, but I don't know if you can get those cheap, as those programs usually run about 600 bucks.

Also, if you are doing newsletters, get Adobe InDesign or Quark Xpress.

Basically photoshop is the best for photos, images, etc...

Illustrator is the best for vector (scale without losing quality) images, such as logos and typography.

I use both to complement each other. Usually making something in Illustrator and then importing it into photoshop for additional work if needed.

You can use a mac or PC. They are the EXACT SAME.

The Mac is a better graphics system all around, but when it comes to those programs, all it depends on is your monitor. The images will look exactly the same on a PC or a MAC. If you get a nice 19" LCD monitor, that's probably best (and sorta expensive - 350 bucks).

I would also recommend getting two monitors...one for the main image editing, and the other for all of the toolbars.

Anyway, hope that helps!
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You say you own a graphics company 89th so i decided to check out your website. Did you design it 89th?
You're an atheist when considering Zeus, Apollo, Amon Ra, Mithras, Baal, Thor, Wotan, the Golden Calf and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.........I just go one God further.
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Nov 3 2005, 02:37 PM
Wacki Iraqi
Nov 3 2005, 02:24 PM
Buy a Mac if you don't have one and use it's second to none iphoto ( soon to be beautifully out classed by Aperture i hope) for intro level ease, or get Adobe Photoshop for something you can grow into but not grow out of. I know many people who start with simple software and then outgrow it very quickly.

I was wondering about that....the full Photoshop is more than I want/need right now, but would the 'elements' version be something I'd grow out of quickly? Worth thinking about, thanks!


new computer is not in the picture, so to speak.

Yeah, i guess it's fine Sue it just depends on how flexible you expect the package to behave and how far you're going to be taking your graphic manipulation.
Good luck
P.s. Photoshop would probably have the advantage of help resourses online over some other software packages and the .psd format is widely used and therefore more easily migrated. :thumb:
You're an atheist when considering Zeus, Apollo, Amon Ra, Mithras, Baal, Thor, Wotan, the Golden Calf and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.........I just go one God further.
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Nov 3 2005, 02:37 PM
Mark
Nov 3 2005, 02:26 PM
Wacki! :thumb:

Macs Rule!  :cool:

Like a democratic utopia nestled amongst the totalitarian hoards.

I have an iMac (easel)
A Powerbook 17"
A G5 Powermac.
An ipod and two Apple Studio Displays......................i'm not proud, i'm in love. :smile:

Sweet! :thumb:

Macs in the house:
XServe Dual 2.3Ghz G5
XServe Duan 2.0Ghz G5
iMac G5 17" 1.5 Gig ram.
iMac G4 flat panel 1 Gig ram
Dual G4 1Ghz 1.5Gig ram - Web/Mail/Development Server
Dual G4 1.25Ghz 2 Gig ram - my workstation
Mac G4 500Mhz 750MB ram
Mac G4 Cube 1 Gig ram
Mac G3 Server - DNS duties
iBook G4 14" 1.25 Gig Ram
PowerBook G3 - not really used much any more.
Various other vintages of working and non working mac totally about 6 cpu's.

Sun Microsytems SunBlade 100 Database server
Couple of other older vintage Suns

Three PC weenie machines.
Dual P3, 2000 Pro
P4 2.5Ghz 2000Pro
P4 3.0Ghz XP Pro

OS X rules. And no 89th they are NOT the same.

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FWIW - I just surveyed the rack at Frys and bought Photo Impact Pro - main reason was that with all the mail in rebates (which I mailed in) it cost me a total of $19.99. I've been living off a trial version of Paint Shop Pro 4 for the last 10 years. Thus far it's done everything I need it to do. I can't even remember ever adjusting brightness and contrast in a photo. let alone play with stuff like "highlight midtone shadow" or "remove moire".

Anyone have a suggestion for a good basic package for putting video clips together and burning them on a DVD?
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Nov 3 2005, 05:41 PM


Macs in the house:
XServe Dual 2.3Ghz G5
XServe Duan 2.0Ghz G5
iMac G5 17" 1.5 Gig ram.
iMac G4 flat panel 1 Gig ram
Dual G4 1Ghz 1.5Gig ram - Web/Mail/Development Server
Dual G4 1.25Ghz 2 Gig ram - my workstation
Mac G4 500Mhz 750MB ram
Mac G4 Cube 1 Gig ram
Mac G3 Server - DNS duties
iBook G4 14" 1.25 Gig Ram
PowerBook G3 - not really used much any more.
Various other vintages of working and non working mac totally about 6 cpu's.

Sun Microsytems SunBlade 100 Database server
Couple of other older vintage Suns

Three PC weenie machines.
Dual P3, 2000 Pro
P4 2.5Ghz 2000Pro
P4 3.0Ghz XP Pro

OS X rules. And no 89th they are NOT the same.

Mac heaven at your place Mark. :thumb:

89th must have rented that idea from Mr Gates. :wink:
You're an atheist when considering Zeus, Apollo, Amon Ra, Mithras, Baal, Thor, Wotan, the Golden Calf and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.........I just go one God further.
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Nov 3 2005, 06:39 PM
FWIW - I just surveyed the rack at Frys and bought Photo Impact Pro - main reason was that with all the mail in rebates (which I mailed in) it cost me a total of $19.99. I've been living off a trial version of Paint Shop Pro 4 for the last 10 years. Thus far it's done everything I need it to do. I can't even remember ever adjusting brightness and contrast in a photo. let alone play with stuff like "highlight midtone shadow" or "remove moire".

Anyone have a suggestion for a good basic package for putting video clips together and burning them on a DVD?

iMovie and iDVD work brilliantly together for the starter types, but you'll need a mac. :thumb:
You're an atheist when considering Zeus, Apollo, Amon Ra, Mithras, Baal, Thor, Wotan, the Golden Calf and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.........I just go one God further.
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Wacki Iraqi
Nov 3 2005, 07:05 PM
You say you own a graphics company 89th so i decided to check out your website. Did you design it 89th?

Hahahaha, actually yeah I did design it. Before I knew ANY graphics programs. I did it with Front Page, a very basic website program. I made it about 3 years ago.

I'm designing a new one as we speak and hope to launch it by the end of the year.
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Nov 3 2005, 09:54 PM
I'm designing a new one as we speak and hope to launch it by the end of the year.

Good plan-

When I call up your website I find that some of the words run together and it's about 4x wider than my screen so I have to scroll back and forth.
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Yeah, it's called text wrap.

I have a couple hundred reviews on there now...and I didn't know about text wrapping when I started. I'm too lazy to fix them all...especially since I'm designing a new site soon.

Each review will have it's own page. The site will have many search options, by genre, grade, year, etc....basically, everything you could think of. Summaries, etc...but I hope to keep the same simple feel about it. It's meant to be a site of quick reviews for people who dont want to read too much BS. :)
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It's meant to be a site of quick reviews for people who dont want to read too much BS.


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Nov 3 2005, 08:54 PM
Wacki Iraqi
Nov 3 2005, 07:05 PM
You say you own a graphics company 89th so i decided to check out your website. Did you design it 89th?

Hahahaha, actually yeah I did design it. Before I knew ANY graphics programs. I did it with Front Page, a very basic website program. I made it about 3 years ago.

I'm designing a new one as we speak and hope to launch it by the end of the year.

Everyone starts somewhere, when's the new one ready?
You're an atheist when considering Zeus, Apollo, Amon Ra, Mithras, Baal, Thor, Wotan, the Golden Calf and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.........I just go one God further.
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Hey, Mac People,

You cannot mention "Mac" and "Photo Editing" and still leave out "GraphicConverter." It just ain't right.

Yes, you have iPhoto as a freebie for newbies and PhotoShop at the high end for the pros, but in the wide middle, there is this virtually free shareware called GraphicConverter that does tons of neat things that, frankly, most people will fine sufficient as long as they don't do vector graphics. (It takes up less space/memory than iPhoto too, it loads faster and is more efficient for various editing tasks. iPhoto is more for browsing/organizing photos.) I see GraphicConverter as a Mac shareware staple, despite iPhoto.

Go check it out: http://www.lemkesoft.com/en/index.htm
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Mark
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Graphic Converter Rocks!

It was one of the very first pieces of sharware I found good enough to pay the fee. I paid the guy like $30 when it first came out. I have purchased every single major upgrade since.

Hey AX! Have you seen Audacity?

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
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I have audacity on my computer. So far I have liked it.
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I just did a vinyl to digital conversion using nothing but Audacity.

It is not perfect. I have found a couple of effects that just trash the waveform and the resulting sound, but it is very powerful, accurate and best of all, it's open source.
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Audacity -- yes, I tried it, on Mac OS X and on Windows.

It works well on Windows, but too slow on my Mac. So on the Mac, I've been sticking with Felt Tip Software's "SoundStudio." (Commercial software, so have to pay some $$$ after the initial 14-day trial period -- it's good, much more polished and more elegant than Audacity, IMO.)

[EDIT: I should qualify that my Mac is a bit old, 400 MHz G4 PowerBook Titanium -- so that might explain why Audacity runs slow there. But SoundStudio runs pretty fast on the same machine. Further note: SoundStudio is a true Mac App., looks and feels like one. Audacity looks and feels like a port, which it is.]

Reference: http://www.felttip.com/products/soundstudio/

p.s. Yes, I paid for my GraphicConverter too! Worth every penny!
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