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Just in case the Right has forgotten; Why we are in Iraq
Topic Started: Nov 3 2005, 09:58 AM (931 Views)
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Larry
Nov 3 2005, 02:16 PM
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I'm sure considering the other variety doesn't require much thought.

...unless 89th was offering.


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You know, I almost did...


:hair: :leaving:

(just teasing you, 89th)

It's ok, I don't like red meat.
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Nov 3 2005, 11:19 AM
Larry
Nov 3 2005, 02:16 PM
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I'm sure considering the other variety doesn't require much thought.

...unless 89th was offering.


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You know, I almost did...


:hair: :leaving:

(just teasing you, 89th)

It's ok, I don't like red meat.

Stop writing on it then!
You're an atheist when considering Zeus, Apollo, Amon Ra, Mithras, Baal, Thor, Wotan, the Golden Calf and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.........I just go one God further.
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Lucy:

The Turks have an atrocious human rights record, beginning with the first modern Holocaust against the Armenians. But we are talking about Iraq, and why we are there.
On the order of magnitude the Turkish regime is nowhere near as oppressive as Saddam's was, and the world consensus has not (yet) condemned the Turks. Furthermore we have no a treaty to uphold in Turkey as we do in Iraq.

Just because we cannot do all things does not mean that we must not do anything.
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Nov 3 2005, 11:41 AM
Furthermore we have no a treaty to uphold in Turkey as we do in Iraq.


What treaty would that be? And there is a treaty with Turkey- it's called NATO.
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Nov 3 2005, 11:32 AM
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89th, it's little clues like the one you just questioned that are indicators that the brain behind the statement may not be hitting on all cylinders.... random things - make a snappy comeback, write something... but unable to connect the two in context.....

you know?.... the guy down the road from me has a son who is mentally challenged. No matter what you say to the boy, he responds with "wanna see my lawnmower?"

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Nov 3 2005, 12:47 PM
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Nov 3 2005, 11:41 AM
Furthermore we have no a treaty to uphold in Turkey as we do in Iraq.


What treaty would that be? And there is a treaty with Turkey- it's called NATO.

The terms of the cease fire.
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Nov 3 2005, 11:41 AM

On the order of magnitude the Turkish regime is nowhere near as oppressive as Saddam's was,

was, was, was..........what is it with you conservatives? Are you genetically predisposed to living yesterday? Do your eyes point backwards in a yet to be discovered condition of time perception malfunction disorder? :P
You're an atheist when considering Zeus, Apollo, Amon Ra, Mithras, Baal, Thor, Wotan, the Golden Calf and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.........I just go one God further.
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Nov 3 2005, 11:48 AM
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Nov 3 2005, 11:32 AM
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89th, it's little clues like the one you just questioned that are indicators that the brain behind the statement may not be hitting on all cylinders.... random things - make a snappy comeback, write something... but unable to connect the two in context.....

you know?.... the guy down the road from me has a son who is mentally challenged. No matter what you say to the boy, he responds with "wanna see my lawnmower?"

Aw, let me help you Larry
"Read meat"
(my guess is your brains are so bountiful with complex logic that an illogical little pastime of we cerebrally emaciated partake of ..................."humour"
You're an atheist when considering Zeus, Apollo, Amon Ra, Mithras, Baal, Thor, Wotan, the Golden Calf and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.........I just go one God further.
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We all got the red meat part. Everyone except you, apparently. It was your idiotic reply of "stop writing on it then" that shows some problems and brings your mental function into question. That, and the fact that you saw "read meat" instead of what he wrote, "red meat", and also of course the fact that your thinking that any of that was what was being discussed in the first place.
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Nov 3 2005, 12:04 PM
We all got the red meat part. It was your idiotic reply of "stop writing on it then" that shows some problems and brings your mental function into question.

Can't read it if it aint wrote on, Ahhhaa ha ha.................it's ok Larry you can laugh now *YOU FINALLY GET IT*

( still functioning Larry? ) :wink:
You're an atheist when considering Zeus, Apollo, Amon Ra, Mithras, Baal, Thor, Wotan, the Golden Calf and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.........I just go one God further.
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And there is a treaty with Turkey- it's called NATO.




interestingly, its turkey's nato membership which is a big selling point in turkey's push to join the EU.

they figure, if they r kosher enough to be involved in europe's defence, then why not also in europe's economy.

but the 2 dont necessarily equate.

u can have a defense pact with other nations without allowing them free border entry with no passport control. and europe fears what would be a massive legal influx (pop 70,000,000, more then france or italy) of migrant workers into the streets of paris and berlin.
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Nov 3 2005, 02:48 PM
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Nov 3 2005, 11:32 AM
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89th, it's little clues like the one you just questioned that are indicators that the brain behind the statement may not be hitting on all cylinders.... random things - make a snappy comeback, write something... but unable to connect the two in context.....

you know?.... the guy down the road from me has a son who is mentally challenged. No matter what you say to the boy, he responds with "wanna see my lawnmower?"

:lol: :lol:
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On the other hand, the Turks have never been halal enough to identify fully with their Islamic brethren the Arabs or Iranians. As long as the prevailing political credo in Turkey adheres to the Kemal Ataturk school of thought rather than the Caliphate, the Turks will continue to knock on Europe's rather than Mecca's door.

As for the Kurds and Turkey, Ataturk double crossed the Kurds in the early 20's after reuniting Anatolia. He promised the Kurds sovereignty in exchange for their support against the British, French and Greeks. Once in power, he proceeded to discard his promises and forcefully assimilate the Kurds.

The Kurds have not forgotten Turkish duplicity.
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Nov 3 2005, 09:58 AM
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Once again just in case the right are training hounds. :wink:
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Sweet looking vehicle, thanks for sharing! :D
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Wacki Iraqi
Nov 3 2005, 12:53 PM
ivorythumper
Nov 3 2005, 11:41 AM

On the order of magnitude the Turkish regime is nowhere near as oppressive as Saddam's was,

was, was, was..........what is it with you conservatives? Are you genetically predisposed to living yesterday? Do your eyes point backwards in a yet to be discovered condition of time perception malfunction disorder? :P

You must live in some parallel universe where the past has no bearing on the present. The topic of conversation is why we are in Iraq. There are historical contingencies. Perhaps your attention span is too short to recall things. It isn't for most people, but we'll be more forgiving given your condition.
The dogma lives loudly within me.
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Nov 3 2005, 01:58 PM
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Nov 3 2005, 12:53 PM
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Nov 3 2005, 11:41 AM

On the order of magnitude the Turkish regime is nowhere near as oppressive as Saddam's was,

was, was, was..........what is it with you conservatives? Are you genetically predisposed to living yesterday? Do your eyes point backwards in a yet to be discovered condition of time perception malfunction disorder? :P

You must live in some parallel universe where the past has no bearing on the present. The topic of conversation is why we are in Iraq. There are historical contingencies. Perhaps your attention span is too short to recall things. It isn't for most people, but we'll be more forgiving given your condition.

What you say would be a fair and true comment were you not commenting on a comparison betwixt Turkish and Saddam Husseins oppression rating. So stop with the hound training you naughty boy. :wink:
You're an atheist when considering Zeus, Apollo, Amon Ra, Mithras, Baal, Thor, Wotan, the Golden Calf and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.........I just go one God further.
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Nov 3 2005, 03:29 PM
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Nov 3 2005, 01:58 PM
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Nov 3 2005, 12:53 PM
ivorythumper
Nov 3 2005, 11:41 AM

On the order of magnitude the Turkish regime is nowhere near as oppressive as Saddam's was,

was, was, was..........what is it with you conservatives? Are you genetically predisposed to living yesterday? Do your eyes point backwards in a yet to be discovered condition of time perception malfunction disorder? :P

You must live in some parallel universe where the past has no bearing on the present. The topic of conversation is why we are in Iraq. There are historical contingencies. Perhaps your attention span is too short to recall things. It isn't for most people, but we'll be more forgiving given your condition.

What you say would be a fair and true comment were you not commenting on a comparison betwixt Turkish and Saddam Husseins oppression rating. So stop with the hound training you naughty boy. :wink:

It was your honey who brought up the comparison with Turkey vis-a-vis the treatment of the Kurds. I don't think the comparision warrants changing the topic, or should have in any way affected our course of action against Iraq. The cease fire was not with Turkey, it was with Iraq. Try to stay focused. :P
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No, the four year ceasefire was with Turkey following the Turkish arrest of Abdulllah Ocalan in 1999. ref: http://home.cogeco.ca/~kurdistan3/15-6-04-...fire-appeal.htm
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Nov 3 2005, 04:39 PM
No, the four year ceasefire was with Turkey following the Turkish arrest of Abdulllah Ocalan in 1999. ref: http://home.cogeco.ca/~kurdistan3/15-6-04-...fire-appeal.htm

This cease fire seems to have been between Turkey and the Kurdish rebels. What again does it have to do with the US?
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I don't know- it was you who was talking about ceasefires with Lucy. I was trying to figure out which ceasefire.
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Nov 4 2005, 12:51 AM
I don't know- it was you who was talking about ceasefires with Lucy. I was trying to figure out which ceasefire.

AC - um........ bit of confusion here. I was banging on about America not having the moral authority to start wars with anyone on the premise that they'd armed half of the aggressors in the first place to make a few quid. After IT posted a photo of a sculpture of a tortured Kurd, I made a point about America arming Turkey in the full knowledge that they'd tortured and killed a good few (Kurds) aswell. I think that was the point where things derailed.
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As a member of NATO, Turkey has every right to purchase military hardware from fellow members including the USA and Britain (Canada too, for that matter).
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