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Where Are The Christians; When you need them.
Topic Started: Nov 2 2005, 05:12 PM (779 Views)
The 89th Key
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Wacki Iraqi
Nov 3 2005, 12:19 PM
The 89th Key
Nov 3 2005, 09:02 AM
Not to mention he still hasn't answered my questions...

Sorry 89th, what were they again?

You see that bar to the right, on the screen? That's called a scroll bar.

Now if you click on the "up arrow", the screen will magically start going up! Wow!!!

There's also a click-and-drag scroll bar, but let's not get ahead of ourselves...
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ycul
Nov 3 2005, 12:50 PM
89th:
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Would you die to save 10 people? I would.


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Yes, thanks to people like us.


I take it you're emailing us from the frontline then 89th?

I actually almost joined the Naval Academy in 2000. I decided not to go, but if I were drafted, I would fight. I almost joined right after 9/11 as well, and then I remembered that the army already has more than enough. If needed, I will fight.
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Wacki Iraqi
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Nov 3 2005, 10:21 AM
ycul
Nov 3 2005, 12:50 PM
89th:
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Would you die to save 10 people? I would.


89th:
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Yes, thanks to people like us.


I take it you're emailing us from the frontline then 89th?

I actually almost
if I were drafted,
I would fight.
I almost joined
If needed, I will fight.

Woulda, shoulda, coulda. What is it with you 89th and the things you almost do? (if you can nearly remember.)
You're an atheist when considering Zeus, Apollo, Amon Ra, Mithras, Baal, Thor, Wotan, the Golden Calf and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.........I just go one God further.
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What are you deaf and stupid, Biff?
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Larry
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
Theres no prerequisite in the exchange to agree, simply to see the opposing perspective and follow it around for a greater undertanding of a world that extends beyond your intramural.

I see. I should be open minded to a greater understanding beyond my own..... the way *you* do....... har

Like you do with the following statement:

Your verbal perpetuation of violence against fellow humans makes you corpulently unnattractive to most.

You have built a strawman around your own incorrect understanding. You are apparently incapable of understanding the difference between violence for the purpose of doing harm is different from violence for the purpose of ending harm. You live in some utopian fog where you think that violence will end if we just quit fighting to defend ourselves from it. That makes you unnattractive to most.

If your *real* problem yet again is those who expose your bitterness towards the world and to whom seek to find a gentler way of being,

But you're being a hypocrite, aren't you? You present yourself as being "above" violence and hostility, and argue that if everyone would be passive and nonviolent like you then all violence would end. You portray yourself as one who would never use violence or hostility even in defense, yet I still recall your emails when you decided I had attacked Lucy where you became extremely hostile, and threatened to use violence.

No, there *is* a distinction between logical and illogical ideology. Your arguments don't even connect to make a cohesive train of thought. Most people, even many of those on the opposite side of things than me, would not even engage such ridiculous logic as your's in a discussion. They would simply dismiss you as a fruitloop with no real ability to comprehend reality. History destroys your arguments. Reality destroys your arguments. You ignore or refuse to give serious answers when the ridiculousness of a given facet of your argument is exposed as meritless, choosing instead to switch the subject to something else.

Bring it all down to the local level. In your town there is a police presence. By your logic, they should lay down their weapons and go home. There is no valid reason for aggressive defense, no reason to have a defensive agency armed and prepared to use violence in order to maintain the peace. According to your logic the solution is for the police department to lay down their weapons and go home, and the result will be that everyone can then live peacefully. According to your logic, it would be wrong for a policeman to shoot and kill an armed gunman walking down the street shooting innocent people. You don't look beyond the policeman to see the reality of the situation - an armed gunman is threatening the lives of everyone in town, and is killing people. Violence is wrong, so any effort to stop the killer by force is wrong. We must rise to a "higher plane" and figure out a way to talk him out of it. Either that, or you are of the completely misguided view that the reason the gunman is walking through town killing innocent people is because there are policemen in the town.

This is exactly why wars have to be fought. There will always be "bad guys" - people who intend to do harm to others. Someone has to protect people from them. It's a messy job, and it means you may have to use force. Some of us are capable of understanding that if you kill the gunman, the innocent people being killed by him will stop. One man dies, dozens live as a result. You think that is "unattractive". Most people think that is common sense. It is estimated that the millions of innocent people in Iraq who simply want to live in safety are suffering because of roughly 20,000 people who are willing to kill innocent people in order to achieve their goal of driving out the military and taking over the country. By your logic, we should leave and allow these 20,000 people the freedom to oppress the millions of peace loving innocent Iraqis. To you, that is the solution. You apparently believe that if the war ended and all the military left, everyone would sit down and sing Kumbaya and live in peaceful harmony. That is not how a rational thinking person would see it. You think it is "unattractive" to suggest killing those 20,000 people with absolutely no further thought as to the fate of the millions you would leave defenseless against them.

*That* is what is unattractive. You are arguing in favor of your utopian ideology, with absolutely no thoughts, no solutions, no plans at all as to how to protect the multitudes whose lives would be in jeopardy as a result of your poorly thought out "solution". I see no reason to give such a ridiculous set of beliefs any credence. The only reason I even engage you in debate is to see what ridiculous statement you'll make next.

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Very good post Larry. Good analogy with the town/police thing as well. :yes:
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
Wacki Iraqi threatening violence to defend his lady????? :eek:

I can't believe it! He seems so..... benign.
The dogma lives loudly within me.
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The epitome of hypocrisy.
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Nov 3 2005, 10:47 AM
Very good post Larry. Good analogy with the town/police thing as well. :yes:

The idea is yours to rent 89th
3 days$3.99.
Don't forget to return it on time.
You're an atheist when considering Zeus, Apollo, Amon Ra, Mithras, Baal, Thor, Wotan, the Golden Calf and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.........I just go one God further.
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Don't forget to dodge further questions.

Agreeing with someone, isn't renting. But maybe you have a different video rental system over there in fish-and-chips land.
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Nov 3 2005, 11:15 AM
over there in fish-and-chips land.

..............and bowler hats, cobbled streets, hot crumpets and cucumber sandwiches.................AND CHECKED TROUSERED AMERICANS SCREECHING "OH HONEY LOOK AT THE CUTE ICKLE TERRORISTS" :wink:
You're an atheist when considering Zeus, Apollo, Amon Ra, Mithras, Baal, Thor, Wotan, the Golden Calf and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.........I just go one God further.
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Wacki Iraqi
Nov 3 2005, 11:25 AM
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Nov 3 2005, 11:15 AM
over there in fish-and-chips land.

..............and bowler hats, cobbled streets, hot crumpets and cucumber sandwiches.................AND CHECKED TROUSERED AMERICANS SCREECHING "OH HONEY LOOK AT THE CUTE ICKLE TERRORISTS" :wink:

teeth teeth...you forgot the teeth!!!
Dead girls don't say no, but you still have to buy them flowers
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You guys must have a great dodgeball team too!
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Nov 3 2005, 11:27 AM
Wacki Iraqi
Nov 3 2005, 11:25 AM
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Nov 3 2005, 11:15 AM
over there in fish-and-chips land.

..............and bowler hats, cobbled streets, hot crumpets and cucumber sandwiches.................AND CHECKED TROUSERED AMERICANS SCREECHING "OH HONEY LOOK AT THE CUTE ICKLE TERRORISTS" :wink:

teeth teeth...you forgot the teeth!!!

Who, where? :unsure: i swore put them in this morning. :leaving:
You're an atheist when considering Zeus, Apollo, Amon Ra, Mithras, Baal, Thor, Wotan, the Golden Calf and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.........I just go one God further.
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No, that was your brain you forgot.
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Nov 3 2005, 11:32 AM
No, that was your brain you forgot.

Beige with a green tinge.
You're an atheist when considering Zeus, Apollo, Amon Ra, Mithras, Baal, Thor, Wotan, the Golden Calf and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.........I just go one God further.
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
ivorythumper
Nov 3 2005, 10:59 AM
Wacki Iraqi threatening violence to defend his lady????? :eek:

I can't believe it! He seems so..... benign.

Yeah, he tried the old "my dick is bigger than your dick" bluff.

Righteous indignation in defense of his lady. Ready to do battle.

I gave him my address..... noticed he didn't swing down my way on his recent trip to the states...

Apparently his pacifism stems more from cowardice than from principle......
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Nov 3 2005, 11:34 AM
ivorythumper
Nov 3 2005, 10:59 AM
Wacki Iraqi threatening violence to defend his lady?????  :eek:

I can't believe it!  He seems so.....    benign.

Yeah, he tried the old "my dick is bigger than your dick" bluff.

Righteous indignation in defense of his lady. Ready to do battle.

I gave him my address..... noticed he didn't swing down my way on his recent trip to the states...

Apparently his pacifism stems more from cowardice than from principle......

First i was ugly then i didn't have cancer then i was too cool for an IQ and now my Johnson is smaller than yours Larry.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If you had have given me your address Larry i would have most definately not showed up at your place on my recent trip to America, through a very real fear of a) if you chose your house by the same "logic" that you choose your accusations, i suspect i'd have to be dragging you out of the rubble to see you and b) I'd have to want to ruin a perfectly good holiday unless you were suggesting tea and crumpets on your porch.

I GET IT, all this antagonism is due to the fact that we didn't come and visit with you at lonely farm down there.
I tell you what Larry, you resend your address :rolleyes: and i'll bring the anti venom. :smooch:
You're an atheist when considering Zeus, Apollo, Amon Ra, Mithras, Baal, Thor, Wotan, the Golden Calf and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.........I just go one God further.
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Geaux Tigers!
Wacki Iraqi
Nov 3 2005, 11:48 AM
Larry
Nov 3 2005, 11:34 AM
ivorythumper
Nov 3 2005, 10:59 AM
Wacki Iraqi threatening violence to defend his lady?????   :eek:

I can't believe it!  He seems so.....    benign.

Yeah, he tried the old "my dick is bigger than your dick" bluff.

Righteous indignation in defense of his lady. Ready to do battle.

I gave him my address..... noticed he didn't swing down my way on his recent trip to the states...

Apparently his pacifism stems more from cowardice than from principle......

First i was ugly then i didn't have cancer then i was too cool for an IQ and now my Johnson is smaller than yours Larry.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If you had have given me your address Larry i would have most definately not showed up at your place on my recent trip to America, through a very real fear of a) if you chose your house by the same "logic" that you choose your accusations, i suspect i'd have to be dragging you out of the rubble to see you and b) I'd have to want to ruin a perfectly good holiday unless you were suggesting tea and crumpets on your porch.

I GET IT, all this antagonism is due to the fact that we didn't come and visit with you at lonely farm down there.
I tell you what Larry, you resend your address :rolleyes: and i'll bring the anti venom. :smooch:

In other words, you let your alligator mouth overload your hummingbird butt.

All hat, no cattle.
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Nov 3 2005, 11:56 AM

In other words, you let your alligator mouth overload your hummingbird butt.

All hat, no cattle.

Hey, deep dysgraphia Jolly, i like it!
You're an atheist when considering Zeus, Apollo, Amon Ra, Mithras, Baal, Thor, Wotan, the Golden Calf and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.........I just go one God further.
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