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Proof there is no God?
Topic Started: Oct 31 2005, 05:15 AM (1,556 Views)
Rick Zimmer
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The 89th Key
Oct 31 2005, 07:06 AM
Kenny, I honestly urge you to explore Christianity. You have so many misconceptions surrounding it, that it's sad.

89th. I honestly urge you to explore Christianity. You have so many misconceptions surrounding it, that it's sad.
[size=4]Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul -- Benedict XVI[/size]
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JBryan
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Mikhailoh
Oct 31 2005, 07:49 AM

I won't even get in a hot tub I did not install myself.

What if there were some super hot babes in there and were begging you to jump in.....huh?! Come on you know you would! :biggrin:


He could logically conclude that, since they weren't smoking and break dancing, it must be okay.
"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne


There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it".


Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody.

Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore.

From The Lion in Winter.
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Larry
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
Rick Zimmer
Oct 31 2005, 08:08 AM
The 89th Key
Oct 31 2005, 07:06 AM
Kenny, I honestly urge you to explore Christianity. You have so many misconceptions surrounding it, that it's sad.

89th. I honestly urge you to explore Christianity. You have so many misconceptions surrounding it, that it's sad.

Rick, I honestly urge you to explore Christianity. You have so many misconceptions surrounding it, that it's sad.
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kenny
HOLY CARP!!!
Larry
Oct 31 2005, 08:14 AM
Rick Zimmer
Oct 31 2005, 08:08 AM
The 89th Key
Oct 31 2005, 07:06 AM
Kenny, I honestly urge you to explore Christianity. You have so many misconceptions surrounding it, that it's sad.

89th. I honestly urge you to explore Christianity. You have so many misconceptions surrounding it, that it's sad.

Rick, I honestly urge you to explore Christianity. You have so many misconceptions surrounding it, that it's sad.

Larry, I honestly urge you to explore Christianity. You have so many misconceptions surrounding it, that it's sad.
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John D'Oh
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Reverend, I honestly urge you to explore electrical theory. You have so many misconceptions surrounding it, that it's sad.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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ivorythumper
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Rick Zimmer
Oct 31 2005, 09:08 AM
The 89th Key
Oct 31 2005, 07:06 AM
Kenny, I honestly urge you to explore Christianity. You have so many misconceptions surrounding it, that it's sad.

89th. I honestly urge you to explore Christianity. You have so many misconceptions surrounding it, that it's sad.

Rick. I honestly urge you to explore Catholicism. You have so many misconceptions surrounding it, that it's sad.

:D
The dogma lives loudly within me.
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kenny
Oct 31 2005, 11:14 AM
How could God let this happen?

And in a church?
And in front of 800 followers?
And during a baptism?

God could have tripped the circuit breaker or something subtle and reasonable in line with physics.

Maybe there is a God but this church had their doctrine a little off or something.

Seriously how can people, especially these 800, and especially the one who has to reschedule his baptism, go on believing there is a God?

Surely they are pondering a big question this morning.

How unfair would it be for God to save this man, when the pastor's death was his own fault?

What kind of world would this be if God didn't let us die, didn't let us have free will, which results in consequences, both good and bad?
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Wow, sorry...didn't mean to mess up the pattern! I posted before I read this second page.

Rick, I honestly urge you to explore what The 89th Key stands for, you have so many misconceptions surrounding me, that it's sad.
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***musical princess***
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:(

That's so sad. Poor guy - fair enough, it was a stupid thing to do but it's still horrible all the same.

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AlbertaCrude
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kenny
Oct 31 2005, 08:15 AM
Larry
Oct 31 2005, 08:14 AM
Rick Zimmer
Oct 31 2005, 08:08 AM
The 89th Key
Oct 31 2005, 07:06 AM
Kenny, I honestly urge you to explore Christianity. You have so many misconceptions surrounding it, that it's sad.

89th. I honestly urge you to explore Christianity. You have so many misconceptions surrounding it, that it's sad.

Rick, I honestly urge you to explore Christianity. You have so many misconceptions surrounding it, that it's sad.

Larry, I honestly urge you to explore Christianity. You have so many misconceptions surrounding it, that it's sad.

And I honestly implore everyone to explore safety standards before handling electrical power sources and equipment. There is a lesson to be learned from this newsworthy parable.
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ivorythumper
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kenny
Oct 31 2005, 06:15 AM
Pastor electrocuted during baptism.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/31/pastor.el...d.ap/index.html

How can those 800 people keep believing after seeing this?

Doncha think, Kenny, that if God suspended the laws of the universe for Christians (and made them all good looking, rich, healthy, and with super powers) that the atheists and pagans would catch on?

That he'd have a lot of people who wanted to be Christian for selfish reasons instead of out of true love for Him?

It reminds me of a story of St Theresa of Avila who was on a journey to set up a new convent for her nuns. Crossing a river, her carriage tipped over and dumped her in the river. She said "Jesus, if this is how you treat your friends, no wonder you have so few of them!"

The dogma lives loudly within me.
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ivorythumper
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
spot on, AC!
The dogma lives loudly within me.
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Mark
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HOLY CARP!!!
I just nominated this guy for a Darwin Award :sombrero:
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ivorythumper
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
That "thief in the night" stuff is pretty accurate.
The dogma lives loudly within me.
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Aqua Letifer
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ZOOOOOM!
So, IT, you're telling me that Earth, unlike Heaven, is a place where bad sh!t can actually happen? Amazing!
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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ivorythumper
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Aqua Letifer
Oct 31 2005, 10:52 AM
So, IT, you're telling me that Earth, unlike Heaven, is a place where bad sh!t can actually happen?  Amazing!

You know, Aqua -- it really, really is true!

As Chesterton pointed out, that we live in a fallen world is the single most obvious of theological premises!
The dogma lives loudly within me.
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Dewey
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HOLY CARP!!!
Why would someone's death - regardless of how it occurs - be reason to stop believing in a faith that says that our physical time on earth doesn't add up to a hangnail compared to the eternity of our existence in the presence of (or the absence of) an eternal and infinite God?
"By nature, i prefer brevity." - John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, p. 685.

"Never waste your time trying to explain yourself to people who are committed to misunderstanding you." - Anonymous

"Oh sure, every once in a while a turd floated by, but other than that it was just fine." - Joe A., 2011

I'll answer your other comments later, but my primary priority for the rest of the evening is to get drunk." - Klaus, 12/31/14
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Aqua Letifer
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ZOOOOOM!
'Cause God seemed to have "let" this happen, Dwain. He's not doing his job, apparently, in keeping us perfectly safe and allowing us to live lives free of problems.

I've heard this argument so many times, and I have yet to understand it myself.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Dewey
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HOLY CARP!!!
:blink:
"By nature, i prefer brevity." - John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, p. 685.

"Never waste your time trying to explain yourself to people who are committed to misunderstanding you." - Anonymous

"Oh sure, every once in a while a turd floated by, but other than that it was just fine." - Joe A., 2011

I'll answer your other comments later, but my primary priority for the rest of the evening is to get drunk." - Klaus, 12/31/14
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Steve Miller
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This whole story bothers me both as a Christian and an electrician.

As a Christian, I know that there is no promise of special treatment form above for the followers. About the only group that espouses that concept is the "Prosperity Ministry" bunch, and their message carries no weight with me.

The usual expression of comfort would be that it is all for the best - that this minister was called hoime for some reason. I still find it sad - the man leaves behind a wife and kids and is guilty of nothing more than a moment of carelessness.

As an electrician, I can see a need for a stricter code requirrement. While there is a code requirement for ground fault interrupters on pools of all sorts (including baptismal pools), there is no such requirement for general perpose receptacles on stages in church buildings. Given the near certainty that this will happen again, I will be forwarding a proposal to the code making body to make GFI protection mandatory for all stage receptacles.

Ivory - you might want to make this requirement a part of your spec package.
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JBryan
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I believe the churches he has been involved with use far less water for their ceremonies.

"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne


There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it".


Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody.

Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore.

From The Lion in Winter.
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Steve Miller
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JBryan
Oct 31 2005, 12:33 PM
I believe the churches he has been involved with use far less water for their ceremonies.

True.

Still - stages in any sort of building will be put to a multitude of different uses. Much of the time the displays and sets will be erected on a temporary basis by volunteers with varying levels of knowlege and a whole lot of sketchy extension cords. Church stages are no different from theater stages in this regard.

GFI's cost $10. Stages should have them.
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JBryan
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No argument here.
"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne


There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it".


Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody.

Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore.

From The Lion in Winter.
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justme
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HOLY CARP!!!
I feel sad for his wife and children. On the surface from the article, it looks like they were a nice family. I wonder if she and the children were there. I don't question the way the man died or God "allowing" something like this to happen. But, I do wonder God would "allow" something like this to happen in front of the man's children. That bothers me.
"Men sway more towards hussies." G-D3
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AlbertaCrude
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Aqua Letifer
Oct 31 2005, 11:03 AM
'Cause God seemed to have "let" this happen, Dwain.  He's not doing his job, apparently,
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posted by Dwain Lee:  :blink:



Well there must be a job description on file somewhere.
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