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Proof there is no God?
Topic Started: Oct 31 2005, 05:15 AM (1,554 Views)
kenny
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Pastor electrocuted during baptism.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/31/pastor.el...d.ap/index.html

How can those 800 people keep believing after seeing this?
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bachophile
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no, i would prefer to see it as proof that grabbing an electric powered instrument while immersed in water serves to powerfully conduct a current, and is a pretty stupid thing to do and should be discouraged.

thats how God created the world. laws of physics and so on...
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Mark
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It's called "Natural Selection"
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bachophile
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i guess he missed this web site...

question - Hi,
I am looking for a way to explain to fourth graders why water conducts
electricity. Would it be accurate to say that water makes the electrons
in dissolved materials (especially salts) act like the electrons in
metals, in the sense that the electrons in the salts are free to "swim"
around once they are in the water?
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Rebecca,

Your approach is a good one for grades 4-5. When salts dissolve in water,
they form ions (NaCl becomes Na+ and Cl-, for example) and it is these
ions that carry charge.
"I don't know much about classical music. For years I thought the Goldberg Variations were something Mr. and Mrs. Goldberg did on their wedding night." Woody Allen
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Mark
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I see this baptism was taking place in a place we like to refer to as "A Jesus Warehouse"

800 people were in attendance. That's not such a big JW but some of these places hold thousands of people at a time and require large screen video monitors and microphones. :rolleyes:

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bachophile
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one of the problems of being hostile to science is when science comes and zaps u back in the @ss.
"I don't know much about classical music. For years I thought the Goldberg Variations were something Mr. and Mrs. Goldberg did on their wedding night." Woody Allen
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Jeez, it was just a stupid (granted, a fatal one) mistake with a microphone. How does this even come close to anything remotely resembling proof that God does not exist? Are you saying if there is a God he would have saved Rev. Lake from dying because he was a pastor and got electricuted during a baptism? Is that what your proof consists of?
We're all mad here!
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bachophile
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i agree, i think its proof God exists.

any manifestation of the laws of nature confirms my belief.
"I don't know much about classical music. For years I thought the Goldberg Variations were something Mr. and Mrs. Goldberg did on their wedding night." Woody Allen
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Mark
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Maybe God doesn't like the Jesus Warehouse concept?

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Kenny, I honestly urge you to explore Christianity. You have so many misconceptions surrounding it, that it's sad. It's as if I said all hybrid owners hug a tree before going to bed or that all gay men dress up as women.

As Bach said, we live in a world with laws of physics. The pastor would have just as quickly died if he stepped off the roof of a building and fallen to his death.
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Depends on the height of the building and his terminal velocity.
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There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it".


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Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore.

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Yeah, only the great majority of hybrid owners hug trees. :D
We're all mad here!
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kenny
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How could God let this happen?

And in a church?
And in front of 800 followers?
And during a baptism?

God could have tripped the circuit breaker or something subtle and reasonable in line with physics.

Maybe there is a God but this church had their doctrine a little off or something.

Seriously how can people, especially these 800, and especially the one who has to reschedule his baptism, go on believing there is a God?

Surely they are pondering a big question this morning.
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I think Kenny is just having a little fun! :biggrin:
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kenny
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I do try to add some levity with my writing style but my questions are dead serious.
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kenny
Oct 31 2005, 07:19 AM
I do try to add some levity with my writing style but my questions are dead serious.

okay....well your answer is that God just didn't like the guy and wanted to make him an example for the followers. Same with the poor blacks in NO.

Remember...he knows whether you've been good or not so be good for goodness sake!!
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Oct 31 2005, 07:06 AM
As Bach said, we live in a world with laws of physics.

We live in a world that's millions of years old too, but a lot of people refuse to believe it.
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I do try to add some levity with my writing style but my questions are dead serious.


If you expect him to step in and interfere, then there'd never be any bad stuff happen. This leads to the question, does he ever step in? If he does, why doesn't he do it more often? If he doesn't, it sort of makes praying for things rather pointless, unless the prayer is more of a meditation than a humble request.

Or maybe he was helping accelerate the good reverend's trip to paradise.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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Going from this guy's point of view, God also gave him the good sense to know that water and electricity are a very bad combination.

I won't even get in a hot tub I did not install myself.
Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball
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Social Darwainism seems to have struck again.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Oct 31 2005, 07:49 AM

I won't even get in a hot tub I did not install myself.

What if there were some super hot babes in there and were begging you to jump in.....huh?! Come on you know you would! :biggrin:
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Mark
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:lol2:
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Oct 31 2005, 06:40 AM
any manifestation of the laws of nature confirms my belief.

Well said!
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Perhaps God's intervention did come for the person that was going to get baptized. I heard she was in the water as well and was not injured.

I don't know much about physics, however.

But I believe the world is billions of years old.
Kincaid - disgusted Republican Partisan since 2006.
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