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SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!!! Do Not enter unless you've read HBP!
Topic Started: Oct 13 2005, 08:26 PM (392 Views)
Luke's Dad
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Dumbledore is alive! It was all a set up. During my re-listening to HBP tonight, I discovered a very important clue during the time we were first discovering the spell Levicorpsa (sp?). A nickel to whoever finds it!


:woot:
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OH MY GOD!!!!!


What's the really important hint?

:sombrero:

Okay, okay, seriously now, I just went back and re-read that part. It's a non-verbal spell (check), it is the invention of the HBP aka Snape (check), it levitated Ron (CHECK!!!), and color of light the spell produces is NOT mentioned (half-check, who knows, it could be green), and the counter-curse made Ron fall in a heap back onto his mattress (check).

Going back to re-read the "murder" scene:

That WOULD explain WHY the avada kedavra appears to malfunction. As I've pointed out numerous times, he was not falling over instantly like Cedric Diggory and Frank Bryce when they were murdered with Avada Kedavra, but he was LIFTED INTO THE AIR (CHECK!!!), he hung there suspended (check) and "fell slowly backward, like a great ragdoll, over the battlements and out of site." Later on in the next chapter, after Snape's flight:

"Dumbledore's eyes were closed; but for the strange angle of his arms and legs, he might have been sleeping. Harry reached out, straightened the half-moon spectacles upon the crooked nose, and wiped a trickle of blood from the mouth with his own sleeve."

Hmmmmmmmmm.....

You've definitely given me something to think about, LD.
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By the way, when can I expect my nickel?

:D :D :D
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Toss in the oft mentioned never used Draught of Living Death, and I think we are strongly on to something!
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Ooooo, I just re-read the murder again. Unlike with every other instance that Avada Kedavra has been used, JKR this time OMITS the presence of a rushing sound. IIRC, that detail has always been included every other time we've seen the spell in action.

Hmmmmm...
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Ok, I was wrong. The rushing sound wasn't mentioned when Cedric was murdered either.
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You guys should solve murders :cool:

"A wise man feareth, and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident."

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Holy carp guys! I just picked up a copy of HBP and turned it to a random page and started reading.

Well, I opened it straight to page 241 (American Edition) and they are talking about the levicorpus spell. Harry mentions having seen his father use it once before, and wonders if he could have been the half-blood prince, when Hermione interupts him:

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"Maybe your dad did use it, Harry," said Hermione, "but he's not the only one. We've seen a whole bunch of people use it, in case you've forgotten. Dangling people in the air. Making them float along, asleep, helpless."


(bolding and italics mine)

Yet another clue!!! :D
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Ld has been working lots of hours. What do you mean by your post? Evidence to what?
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My new evidence that I just gave in the post directly above yours, about what Hermione says. It's just backing up what we came up with earlier, so I guess it's not technically new, but still...
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Dec 2 2005, 04:15 AM
Holy carp guys! I just picked up a copy of HBP and turned it to a random page and started reading.

Well, I opened it straight to page 241 (American Edition) and they are talking about the levicorpus spell. Harry mentions having seen his father use it once before, and wonders if he could have been the half-blood prince, when Hermione interupts him:

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"Maybe your dad did use it, Harry," said Hermione, "but he's not the only one. We've seen a whole bunch of people use it, in case you've forgotten. Dangling people in the air. Making them float along, asleep, helpless."


(bolding and italics mine)

Yet another clue!!! :D

I guess it's another clue, but we've already established what the spell does. If you mean the asleep part, remember, the DE's broke in on the muggles while they were sleeping. It wasn't the Levicorpsa spell making them appear asleep, as we've seen the spell 2 other times where the victims are awake.

There's no question that the levicorpsa could have done what we think it did.
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