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America's propaganda campaign in "freed" Iraq
Topic Started: Jul 24 2005, 07:29 PM (317 Views)
yhabpo
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http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/07/24/...ease/index.html
News release quotes from unidentified Iraqis are virtually the same

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The U.S. military on Sunday said it was looking into how virtually identical quotations ended up in two of its news releases about different insurgent attacks.

Following a car bombing in Baghdad on Sunday, the U.S. military issued a statement with a quotation attributed to an unidentified Iraqi that was virtually identical to a quote reacting to an attack on July 13.

After questioning by news media, the military released the statement without the quotation.

Lt. Col. Clifford Kent, spokesman for the U.S. Army's 3rd Infantry Division, said use of the quote was an "administrative error." He said the military was looking into the matter.

The car bomb killed 25 people and wounded 33 others near the al-Rashad police station, Baghdad emergency police said. (Full story)

A statement about the attack by Task Force Baghdad 3rd Infantry Division contained a three-sentence quote attributed to an unidentified Iraqi. The statement said the Iraqi called the attackers "enemies of humanity" and vowed to "take the fight to the terrorists."

The quote was virtually the same as a quote contained in a Task Force Baghdad 3rd Infantry Division statement released after a car bombing on July 13. That attack killed several children.

The statement about the July 13 attack quoted an unidentified Iraqi saying terrorists were attacking "the children." In Sunday's quote, an unidentified Iraqi said terrorists were attacking "the ISF" (Iraqi Security Forces).

Following are the two quotes as provided by the U.S. military in news releases:

Sunday's news release said: "'The terrorists are attacking the infrastructure, the ISF and all of Iraq. They are enemies of humanity without religion or any sort of ethics. They have attacked my community today and I will now take the fight to the terrorists,' said one Iraqi man who preferred not to be identified."

The July 13 news release said: "'The terrorists are attacking the infrastructure, the children and all of Iraq,' said one Iraqi man who preferred not to be identified. 'They are enemies of humanity without religion or any sort of ethics. They have attacked my community today and I will now take the fight to the terrorists.'"

CNN's Cal Perry and Kevin Flower contributed to this report.
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Rick Zimmer
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Shades of Vietnam -- when the military put out erroneous press releases eventually udnermining their credibility on anything they said.
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apple
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if they wanted to reuse and disguise a quote, believe they would have done it better.. I think this coincidental...

right or wrong?
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yhabpo
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Are you proposing that two unrelated persons managed to recite forty words at at different times and locations with only one word that is dissimilar? That's preposterous, apple.
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Rick Zimmer
Jul 24 2005, 09:55 PM
Shades of Vietnam -- when the military put out erroneous press releases eventually udnermining their credibility on anything they said.

Right, Rick. Forget the content, forget that the terrorists really are enemies of humanity. The main thing is to score points and decide that this error or whatever it is undermines the credibility of the US military.
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Jul 24 2005, 11:52 PM
Rick Zimmer
Jul 24 2005, 09:55 PM
Shades of Vietnam -- when the military put out erroneous press releases eventually udnermining their credibility on anything they said.

Right, Rick. Forget the content, forget that the terrorists really are enemies of humanity. The main thing is to score points and decide that this error or whatever it is undermines the credibility of the US military.

Are you still on the war in Iraq being about the terrorists, thumps?

No, it's about the WMD Hussein had ...no, no. That's not it. Ahhh...the WMD's he MIGHT develop....no, no, that's not it either. Oh I got it...he was a brutal dictator and we had to invade and occupy to get rid of him. Damn! I think that one is gone too.

Oh! Oh! I know! Teacher, call on me!

The President said "They tried to kill my daddy!"

No, he only said that once and I don't think we'll hear that excuse again.

Oh! Oh! Oh! I got it!

Yes?

We invaded Iraq to bring them the joys and pleasures of American Democracy, to make them a beacon of light in an otherwise dark Middle East!

That's right.

You see class, at first it was about WMD's because as Mr. Wolfowitz testified under oath, that is what everyone could agree on. But soon, we found there weren't any WMD's. What was the President to do? He had to come up with some reason for this carnage and waste of resources. So, he tried LOTS of different sound bites -- and finally one worked! Democracy!


No, thumps. Even Bush uses fighting the terrorists as only a secondary reason for the war. You have got to keep up with the press releases! Sheesh!


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ivorythumper
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:rolleyes2:

These are hardly mutually exclusive. My source at the War College suggested to me two years ago it was about a strategic restructuring of the middle east, and that the consensus pointed to Iraq for a significant number of reasons. Does it really have to be about "one thing" for you, Rick? How do you justify the US involvement in WWII against the Germans -- after all, only Japan attacked us.
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Further proof the left should *never* be entrusted with the safety of our nation.

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Rick Zimmer
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Jul 25 2005, 10:49 AM
:rolleyes2:

These are hardly mutually exclusive. My source at the War College suggested to me two years ago it was about a strategic restructuring of the middle east, and that the consensus pointed to Iraq for a significant number of reasons. Does it really have to be about "one thing" for you, Rick? How do you justify the US involvement in WWII against the Germans -- after all, only Japan attacked us.

No, it can be several things, thumps. It just would be nice to know what it is.

I don't recall the Congressional or public debate over having our troops killed and our resources squandered over a strategic restructuring of the Middle East, do you?

Nor do I recall any sort of debate over what that restructuring should be, what the risks are, what the possibility of success is, how long it will take, how much it will cost -- all issues that seem to be of some import before a nation commits itself to a major course of action.

Although, if a strategic restructuring is what it really is, it simply hearkens directly back to PNAC, which so many here want to dismiss as meaningless -- but now seems to be the "behind-the-scenes" reason we are there. How very interesting.

But all of this is really meaningless in this thread. The real issue is whether the miliary is fabricating press releases just as they did in Vietnam and sowing the seeds of their own loss of credibility.

Sure looks like they are.

You think this is a good idea, thumps?
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