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The answer to the question about Ginny; Spoilers! But has everyone read it now?
Topic Started: Jul 23 2005, 02:41 AM (674 Views)
dolmansaxlil
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Jul 26 2005, 02:45 PM
When it was realized that Harry is a Parselmouth, didn't Dumbledore say that Voldemort transfered a part of himself into Harry the night that Harry's parents were killed?

It did indeed. If you take a look at my post about a wild theory from CoS and HBP, I quoted the section you're referring to.

I wonder if Harry's anger towards Dumbledore in OotP might also be related. Sure, Volde was reading Harry's thoughts to an extent and influencing him, but it seems much more likely for Volde to be able to do that if Harry possesses part of his soul.
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dolmansaxlil
Jul 26 2005, 02:34 PM
That's just it - the spell could appear as a formless white mist or something, since it never reached the destination. Perhaps they did appear, but because they had no meaning for Harry, they aren't described?

I also wonder if lesser spells would appear. For example, how would a disarming spell appear in Priori? With AK there is obviously a human form. With Wormtail's hand, there was shape to it. But what about lesser curses and charms?

Or greater spells? The one for the creation of a horcrux for instance.

I'm so confused!!!!!!!!!!!1 :o
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Jul 26 2005, 12:34 PM
LadyElton
Jul 26 2005, 02:45 PM
When it was realized that Harry is a Parselmouth, didn't Dumbledore say that Voldemort transfered a part of himself into Harry the night that Harry's parents were killed?

It did indeed. If you take a look at my post about a wild theory from CoS and HBP, I quoted the section you're referring to.

I wonder if Harry's anger towards Dumbledore in OotP might also be related. Sure, Volde was reading Harry's thoughts to an extent and influencing him, but it seems much more likely for Volde to be able to do that if Harry possesses part of his soul.

dol,

I saw yours after I posted mine. :thumb:
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About Priori Incantatem, I also wonder what some things would look like. We saw the shadow of Wormtail's new hand, the shadows of murder victims, we heard screams that represented the cruciatus curse, but what would something like stupefy, expelliarmus, or wingardium levisa look like? The same question can be asked for dozens of other spells too. hmmmmm.....
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Jul 26 2005, 06:26 AM
The spell left the wand, I wouldn't have thought the the wand would be interested in whether the spell reached its destination or not; after all, if Neville were to try and disarm someone, but he missed, his wand would still splurge out that spell, wouldn't it?

I just realised, actually, the wand is interested in whether the spell reaches the destination, because of the shadows of the bodies. The wand knows that that spell was successful. So it makes sense that it wouldn't remember Harry's AK curse because it didn't succeed.
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jgoo, I think the wand interprets the spell as the action that was caused by the spell; if in Priori the wand was forced to recount an Expelliarmus spell, the shadow of a wand would come out; with Wingardium Leviosa the shadow of a club, or a feather, would appear. With the Stunning curse I'm not sure, but it would make sense if the shadow of a body came out again, as the target for Stupefy is the same as the target for Avada Kedavra. But then, as you said, only screams came out for the Cruciatus curse (which I didn't actually notice before).
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I'm thinking that a Horcrux spell would have to come out in one of two forms - either nothing (since a soul has no material form) or the form of whatever the Horcrux was put into.

I'm betting on the first.
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