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Maybe the NYT has it wrong.
Topic Started: Jul 21 2005, 06:16 AM (257 Views)
Jolly
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Geaux Tigers!
Of course, I'm not sure if they actually talk to soldiers...

http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/graham200507210803.asp
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QuirtEvans
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Maybe there was some self-selection bias?

Or maybe he's right, that that's what most of the soldiers think. It doesn't mean that they are right either. I can respect them and the job they do without agreeing with their political views.

Either way, I certainly agree with one thing he says that the soldiers said. We will win. We will win because we have to win, we have too much invested not to win, and W has no desire to be tagged by history with another Vietnam.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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Steve Miller
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QuirtEvans
Jul 21 2005, 07:26 AM
Either way, I certainly agree with one thing he says that the soldiers said. We will win. We will win because we have to win, we have too much invested not to win, and W has no desire to be tagged by history with another Vietnam.

How will we know when that happens?
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Jolly
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Steve Miller
Jul 21 2005, 06:28 AM
QuirtEvans
Jul 21 2005, 07:26 AM
Either way, I certainly agree with one thing he says that the soldiers said.  We will win.  We will win because we have to win, we have too much invested not to win, and W has no desire to be tagged by history with another Vietnam.

How will we know when that happens?

Please name one war with a pre-published victory timeline.
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Jolly
Jul 21 2005, 07:29 AM
Please name one war with a pre-published victory timeline.

I'm not asking when it will happen.

I'm asking how we will know when we've won.
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Jolly
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When we can safely leave a functioning country behind us.

Classic Pottery Barn analogy.
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Jolly
Jul 21 2005, 07:57 AM
Classic Pottery Barn analogy.

"You break it you buy it"?
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QuirtEvans
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Except that when I break something at the Pottery Barn, I own the shattered pieces. Forever.

Let's hope the analogy falls flat before that point.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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Jolly
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Nah, according to MoveOn, we only want it as long as the oil holds out...
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Steve Miller
Jul 21 2005, 10:28 AM
How will we know when that happens?

2020 Baghdad Summer Olympics. :cool:
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