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Warning; Another Harry Potter Thread
Topic Started: Jul 12 2005, 09:47 AM (1,205 Views)
Luke's Dad
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The problem is, we have no way of knowing what's meant by HBP. Is it half muggle? Is it descended from G. Griffondor and S. Slytherin? Does it mean half human/ half something else (like Hagrid or Fleur?)
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Here's the tapestry as we know it at this point:

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And that's the thing. She's revealed quite a bit about who the HBP isn't. But I wonder if she's being deliberately misleading. As you say, it could be Hagrid, because she is so vague about the details at this point.

Tee hee - maybe it's Viktor Krum. He could be descended from Gryffondors and Slytherins.
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We do know that CoS was supposed to be titled Half Blood Prince. It has to be a character from that book. Who did we meet? The rest of the Weasleys (Charlie and Bill excluded), Colin Queavey, what's his name (the DADA instructor that lost his memory......hmmmmmm). Who else?
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What do we know about Mrs. Weasley (besides the fact that she is going to be an a** kicking machine once one of her kids bite it)
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Jul 13 2005, 01:04 PM
We do know that CoS was supposed to be titled Half Blood Prince. It has to be a character from that book. Who did we meet? The rest of the Weasleys (Charlie and Bill excluded), Colin Queavey, what's his name (the DADA instructor that lost his memory......hmmmmmm). Who else?

True. But it could also just be that whatever Harry found out in the CoS was going to be further explained in CoS, and she decided to hold off. So it doesn't necessarily mean that we've already met the character.

And Hagrid is still a good bet there, since he's so prominent in CoS. Maybe he manages to rally the remaining giants afterall, with Gawp's help?
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Hagrid's half-blood, isn't he?
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Jul 13 2005, 01:06 PM
What do we know about Mrs. Weasley (besides the fact that she is going to be an a** kicking machine once one of her kids bite it)

Her maiden name is Prewett. Two close family members (possibly brothers, though the canon doesn't say) were both killed (which explains her extreme fear of death of family members). That's about it, other than the obvious about her kids and stuff.
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<_< Guess we'll have to wait till saturday
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You know we're going to be dying to discuss this thing before the weeks up!
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The person who runs the Leaky Cauldron website reportedly has copies of the first and last chapter (they were sent to him by someone who got the book early). He's being a good boy and not telling though.
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Jul 13 2005, 01:16 PM
You know we're going to be dying to discuss this thing before the weeks up!

Oh yeah. I'll be here as soon as I'm finished posting like this:

Are you finished yet?
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Has he given any indication whatsoever about how he felt about the ending and beginning Even a wow or holy cow or ehhhh?
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Are you finished yet?
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nope
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Jul 13 2005, 01:18 PM
Has he given any indication whatsoever about how he felt about the ending and beginning Even a wow or holy cow or ehhhh?

The court order is that the people who got early copies not even READ them, let alone discuss them. So if he's read them (and how could he not!) he's not saying.
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Doh! I think I woud have been in big trouble if it was me!
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I worked at the bookstore when Goblet of Fire came out. The boxes were shipped to us 4 days before. I received them. And sat there staring at them. But my boss told the receiving team that if anyone opened the boxes, we would be fired immediately. So I locked them in a storage room and waited like a good little girl. But man, it was tempting!

He ended up giving me a copy to take home at 11pm the night before release. So one hour early. I had strict orders to leave it in my bag on the subway and not bring it out until I got home. I started reading it at about 11:45. But even that 45 minute ride home was torture!
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Harry isn't a descendent of Slytherin. Voldemort, on the other hand, is. Harry and Voldemort are in no way related (as JKR would say, you've been watching too much Star Wars).

However, there is mass evidence from the book that Harry may very well be a descendent of Gryffindor. In every single book, I think, there is something that points to it. JKR hasn't said one way or the other if he is or isn't yet. It'll be interesting to find out. The old feud would be continuing through Voldemort and Harry!

Oh, and Dol is right, the HBP is neither Harry or Voldemort (and it's not Tom Riddle either, which she later said. Tom Riddle was a very popular theory at first, and one I really liked myself, since he has been recognized seperately from Voldemort in the books before. But nope, it's not him either).
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Don't take everything Rowling says outside of the books as gospel. More than one author has said one thing in chats and discussions, but then completely surprised everybody with the finished piece. A book isn't finished until it's finally released.
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I trust Rowling not to lie to her fans. She's had all 7 pretty much planned out from the very beginning, and it's too late to change anything now at this late point, as everything in the series has been leading up to her ultimate ending, and all of the clues and foreshadowing are in place (she said so herself. :) ). If she says something in an interview, or if it's on her official website, I believe it.
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Agreed, jgoo. I've been following her interviews for several years (since before GoF) and I haven't found any inconsistencies. She is sometimes very careful in her choice of words so she misleads, but she doesn't flat out lie. If she says it's not Harry or Voldemort, than it's not. Though good call on the Tom Riddle thing, because THAT is the type of thing she would do.

On a side note, I found out my local bookstore is doing midnight sales. So I put a copy on hold and will have it in my hot little hands by shortly after midnight. W00t! Of course, not staying up all night reading it could be a bit of a trick :ph43r:
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My local bookstore is having a Harry Potter party 9PM to midnight. I doubt I'll go.
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jgoo and Dol, you guys are right, of course. However, speculation is half the fun with this series! I have avoided going to her websites and the main fansites (muggle.net, etc...) for this reason! I don't want to have the possibilities limited. Of course, when they are, new ones are created, but I don't care. In a way, what I'm doing is looking at the piece as it stands, and deciding what I would do if I was writing. If I was, George gets it, Dumbledor gets it (perhaps in a Obi-wan type of death thing :wink: ), Tonks gets it :( (I like her), and Harry's a** gets saved last minute by Neville and inadvertantly and unwillingly by Wormtail.
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I still think it's Tom Riddle. Look what JKR has said on the subject:

Is Tom Riddle the Half-Blood Prince?

Well, as Tom Riddle is the same person as Voldemort, and Voldemort is NOT the Half-Blood Prince… do I really need to answer this?

She didn't answer it! I think she's pulling a Dobby.
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