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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 12 2005, 09:47 AM (1,204 Views) | |
| Luke's Dad | Jul 12 2005, 09:47 AM Post #1 |
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One of the Weasley twins must die! Face it, each of the books has gotten more dangerous and darker to Harry, his friends, and the reader. In Sorceror's Stone, you have the deaths of Lily and James. Granted, you can't get much closer to Harry, but he never really knew them, neither did his friends, neither did the reader. Each book got a little closer, until we had the death of Cedric, and finally the "death" of Sirius. We are heading into the last two installments. HBP is going to be the "Empire Strikes Back" or "Revenge of the Sith" of Harry Potter. Coming out of this one, the reader has to be on the edge of his/her seat excited, worried, and scared to death. There has to be real danger to Harry and his friends, that danger needs to strike, and it needs to strike close to their hearts. This means somebody that he knows and is close with. Let's take a look: Hermione and Ron are too close. Plus, they need to be in the last book. Various other members of the DA, not really close enough, except maybe Cho, but Harry's over her. Neville is going to be extremely important in the last book. Much more there than it seems. Don't forget, he was the only other member of the DA still standing with Harry at the end of the battle at the ministry. McMonagle can't as she is the future Headmistress of Hogwart's. Snape wouldn't mean that much to Harry and his friends (they might even be happy!) Dumbledore, ahh Dumbledore. Yes, he's going to die this time. He's always been Harry's little safety valve. Nope, book seven is going to be Harry and Voldemort. Dumbledore must also die for many other reasons, but he's not the death I'm talking about right now. I'll get back to him later. Hagrid? Interesting possiblity, but I doubt it. The other staff at Hogwart's aren't close enough to make the impact necessary. Various members of the Order? Except the Weasley's, they aren't really close enough to Harry and the reader. This leaves the Weasley's. Bill and Charlie aren't as close to Harry as the others, plus they can both KA if you know what I mean. (Comeon, one's a treasure hunter Indiana Jones type, and the other is the magical communities version of the Crocodile Hunter, but with Dragons!) Percy? Not liked enough. Ginny? Hmmmm, maybe, but again, it doesn't feel right. The parents? Once again, it doesn't feel right. Mr. Weasley came to close to death in the last book, he'd be much more careful and Mrs. Weasley is what brings the whole family together. Plus, I don't think Rowling would want to make any more orphans. That's Harry's role. This leaves the twins. It's really obvious when you think about it. The forshadowing with Mrs. Weasley's premonitions, their closeness with Harry since day one. Their recklessness and irresponsibility. Yep, one of them buys it. The good news is that it will only be one, and they will hold their own for a while. The only thing that will save the other is a last minute intervention by Harry. |
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| jgoo | Jul 12 2005, 09:54 AM Post #2 |
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All speculation. I think it'll be either Bill or Charlie, myself. Then again, they aren't major characters. Hagrid is a good option to bet on too though. I thought he was going to die in book 5, yet he made it through. I don't want him to die (or anyone one, for that matter, unless their with Voldemort, or their name is either Fudge or Umbridge, or maybe even Percy Weasley.....) But, perhaps one of the twins will die. That'd be so weird though, as we've always seen them together. Hmmmmm.... |
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| jgoo | Jul 12 2005, 09:56 AM Post #3 |
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In the exact words of JK Rowling on this very same subject (of McGonagal being the next headmistress) "Where did you hear that?" |
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| Luke's Dad | Jul 12 2005, 10:01 AM Post #4 |
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As you said, pure speculation, but if she outlives Dumbledore, I think it's likely. Snape potentially, but not till years later. (When Harry becomes the Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher) I do think that Snape may finally get to teach the Defense class this year, though. |
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| Luke's Dad | Jul 12 2005, 10:02 AM Post #5 |
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What do you think about Dumbledore dying? |
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| jgoo | Jul 12 2005, 10:31 AM Post #6 |
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Dumbledore dying? I don't think until the 7th book. BTW, I don't think Harry's going to be the DADA teacher. JKR said that she can't really imagine Harry being the type to want to be a teacher, not with all the action he's seen. But who knows, maybe she'll surprise us.
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| Jack Frost | Jul 12 2005, 10:44 AM Post #7 |
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I think Hagrid will be alive at the end of book 7. I also think that Neville plays an important part. jf |
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| Luke's Dad | Jul 12 2005, 10:45 AM Post #8 |
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When did she make that statement? I just remember in Phoenix, how much he found himself enjoying leading the DA. Of course, he's going to follow through on auror training, and surprise himself and everybody else with a high enough level on his O.W.L.'s to be placed in Snape's advanced potions class, but in the end, it's a natural fit for him to teach the class. Hogwarts, more than anything else, is his home. It's been his only home. |
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| jgoo | Jul 12 2005, 10:48 AM Post #9 |
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Oo, oo, oo!!! Maybe... Teacher during the school year, auror during the summer!
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| M&M's | Jul 12 2005, 10:52 AM Post #10 |
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That is precisely why Harry would be the Defense Against the Arts teacher. He has seen so many things I think he would want to settle done alittle, but still be involved and this would be a great opportunity. Provided everyone quits killing the teacher in that position. LD, you are jinksing us. Quit speculating on who will die. I don't want anyone to die!!!! Except the people on Voldemort's side of course.!
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| M&M's | Jul 12 2005, 10:52 AM Post #11 |
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That would rock! Where do I apply please! |
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| Luke's Dad | Jul 12 2005, 11:08 AM Post #12 |
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No question. It's in his blood. Nobody made more progress under Harry than Neville. He will save the day on one or more occasions. As I said, who was left standing in the ministry? Neville. Yes, it was with alot of luck and alot of help, but hasn't Harry admitted as much about himself? The surprise heroes in this book, however, will be Wormtail and Mrs. Weasley. (Once Fred or George die, she will be a deatheater hunting machine! )
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| M&M's | Jul 12 2005, 11:14 AM Post #13 |
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That's it, your sleeping on the couch!!!! |
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| Luke's Dad | Jul 12 2005, 11:33 AM Post #14 |
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I can't! B-I-L is permanently glued to it. I think it's grafted to his skin! |
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| M&M's | Jul 12 2005, 11:35 AM Post #15 |
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Well, you can sleep with him!!!!!! Or on the balcony!!!! |
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| Luke's Dad | Jul 12 2005, 11:36 AM Post #16 |
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Uhhhhhhhm, no thanks.
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| Luke's Dad | Jul 12 2005, 11:36 AM Post #17 |
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Why are you so upset? She's gonna kick deatheater a**! |
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| M&M's | Jul 12 2005, 11:38 AM Post #18 |
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I'm mad because you are trying to kill Fred and George!!!!
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| Luke's Dad | Jul 12 2005, 11:40 AM Post #19 |
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I'm not trying to kill them! It's just my personal speculation! Of course, if it was a RPG, and I was running it, then yeah, I'd off one of them, in the interest of a good storyline. |
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| jgoo | Jul 12 2005, 11:41 AM Post #20 |
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I think that Neville will be more powerful with his own wand. Remember, the one he has been unsing all this time, that got snapped in half during the battle at the department of mysteries, was his father's. So now he needs a new wand, a wand of his own, one that chooses him. That, added with his newly found confidence, I think we've only just begun to see the power that Neville really has within him! |
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| jgoo | Jul 12 2005, 12:06 PM Post #21 |
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Where'd everyone go? Did I scare you all off?
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| Luke's Dad | Jul 12 2005, 12:13 PM Post #22 |
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Nope, I just happen to agree with you. What do you think about Wormtail? Dumbledore made a big point out of the fact that Harry spared him and that a debt was now owed Harry from Pedigrew. |
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| Luke's Dad | Jul 12 2005, 12:25 PM Post #23 |
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Let's see if we can revive this thread with a little romance. What do you think, Ron & Hermione? |
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| jgoo | Jul 12 2005, 12:29 PM Post #24 |
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I don't want to see Ron + Hermione happen, but I'm affraid that it's going to. It would just make Harry a third wheel, and it could break up the trio. As for Peter Pettigrew, I think that he will be forced to save Harry somehow. I doubt that he'll do it out of his own free will though. The magical bond between them for Harry saving his life will probably force him to do it, somehow, even if unintentional. He was absent for nearly the entire fifth book, only getting a breif mention, which I find odd. I wonder what he's been up to for the last year since Harry left the graveyard. |
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| M&M's | Jul 12 2005, 12:29 PM Post #25 |
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Maybe. What about Hermoine and Neville? Or Harry and Ginny? |
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Quit speculating on who will die. I don't want anyone to die!!!! Except the people on Voldemort's side of course.!
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