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Rove's comments; (wonkette's take)
Topic Started: Jun 24 2005, 06:40 AM (748 Views)
Amanda
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Jeffrey:
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(Note: I foolishly voted for Kerry, since Bush's domestic agenda appalled me.)


You think it was foolish now. Jeff?
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"Daily Telegraph", London July 27 2005
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Jeffrey
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Amanda - I had two very bad choices. I should have made a Libertarian protest vote.

I recall saying during the Schiavo fiasco that I felt my vote for Kerry was retroactively justified, since whatever else stupid Kerry did, we wouldn't have had that religious right farce. Of course, had Kerry actually been voted in, I would have regretted that decision the first time he actually proposed doing anything. What I wish is that a liberal Republican (Arnie, Bloomberg) or conservative hawkish Democrat (Lieberman) would run, but that would mean putting an intelligent problem solver in office, rather than a party ideologue, so I am sure we will not see it happen. Anyway, the Dems better start taking Rove's criticism seriously if they want to win a national election.

My opinion is that Bush didn't win on religion. That's evangelical spin. Kerry lost a winnable election because he was rightly viewed as a pansy on terrorism.

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Larry
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Given that our economy has grown and continues to grow at a record pace, unemployment is at record lows, and you've never lived better than you do right now at this very second, then........ no. What is foolish is the continuous clacking from the left about how bad the economy is when nothing at all supports such a view. It is one of the most blatant examples of selective logic one can pin on the left to say the economy is bad. It's just like this "housing bubble" crap. Most people's single largest investment is their home, and their home's value is going up so quickly that the left just feels *sure* the bottom is going to drop out at any second.... whatta hoot..... but when the bubble *did* burst in the dotcom bust under Clinton, the left continued to talk about what a great economy we had!!! Even though lots of people lost their shirts.

Note to the left: the economy is growing. Your house increasing in value is a good thing. The fact that you may soon be paying 3$ a gallon for gas is another proof that you don't know what you're talking about - it *wasn't* for the oil....



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Jeffrey
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FrankM
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Jeffrey,

There are times I have nearly perfect resonance with your thoughts and admire your ability to articulate them. This thread is one of those times.
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Mark
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As I posted over at WTF...

All I have heard from liberals for the past 20+ years is nothing but doom and gloom.

They are the party of, by and for pessimists.
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When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
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apple
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boom, gloom, doom, consume, bloom...broom

I feel a poem coming on.
it behooves me to behold
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TomK
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Mark
Jun 25 2005, 11:24 AM

They are the party of, by and for pessimists.

And the loosers and the failures and the deadbeats.. :D
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TomK
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Jeffrey
Jun 24 2005, 05:24 PM
Anyway, the Dems better start taking Rove's criticism seriously if they want to win a national election.



And my criticisms, too. :D
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apple
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it's hard to tell.. for me.

In 3 sentences or less, what exactly, is liberalism... ? :shrug:
it behooves me to behold
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TomK
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apple
Jun 25 2005, 05:42 PM
it's hard to tell.. for me.

In 3 sentences or less, what exactly, is liberalism... ? :shrug:

Naked gay athiests (and the women who love them,) dancing in the street. :D
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ivorythumper
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apple
Jun 25 2005, 01:42 PM
it's hard to tell.. for me.

In 3 sentences or less, what exactly, is liberalism... ? :shrug:

it depends on what you mean by liberal -- I am a liberal in the Burkean sense (promoting a free and ordered society). The folks at Acton Institute are also working in the Liberal Tradition. Today's liberals are perhaps "welfare-liberals" -- wanting people to be free from want. Ted Honderich at UCL has an interesting ramble on this question (obviously more than 3 sentences).
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