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Oh Oprah; Get a life
Topic Started: Jun 22 2005, 06:26 PM (380 Views)
kenny
HOLY CARP!!!
Oprah got her panties in a wad because a store that was closed didn't open up for her?
And then she plays the race card?

(She says, "Oh, but this was to buy a watch for Tina Turner, and they STILL didn't open up.") :veryangry:

Oh, and if you want to hear what the rich spoiled brat has to say about this remember to watch her show in three months to get her side of the story.

I think I'm gonna :puke:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/22/o...logy/index.html


So I can just walk up to any store after closing and expect them to open the doors because I am white?

:rolleyes:
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KlavierBauer
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So I can just walk up to any store after closing and expect them to open the doors because I am a white man?


You can't? I do it all the time... must be the white-straight combo, the rest of the planet exists to make my life easier. MAN I love it!
"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper
"He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple

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kenny
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Dang
Of course.
:doh:
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pianojerome
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Oh yeah. The manager should definately be appologizing to her. After all, she is an internationally-acclaimed talk show host. If he didn't open up the store after closing hours while a PR program was being set up inside, it's obviously because he is racially prejudiced against black people.

:rolleyes:
Sam
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KlavierBauer
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racist pig...

When will he learn that the soon-to-be-customer is ALWAYS right?
"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper
"He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple

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kentcouncil
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I've met Oprah. I like her. She seems very intelligent and down to earth.

Part of me is very surprised and disappointed at her little spoiled celebrity snit.

The cynical part of me isn't surprised at all.
It was a confusion of ideas between him and one of the lions he was hunting in Kenya that had caused A. B. Spottsworth to make the obituary column. He thought the lion was dead, and the lion thought it wasn't.

- P.G. Wodehouse
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Amanda
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The chances are that the opposite happens so often that closing hours mean nothing to her - this then, in contrast, may have seemed like a rebuff. Of course, ask yourselves, how much she actually had to do with any direct encounters. Doesn;t she travel with a huge entourage? Chances are her "people" did most of the talking for her. That's one of the big things about being a celebrity - you're never supposed to have to blow your own horn! "Don't you know who I am? is the bellow of someone on the outs.

Even expensive jewelry houses in effect, have a "by appointment only" business - especially for big spenders. Of course, you DO have to make an appointment. She couldn't expect the clean-up crew and watch-men to wait on her!

Probably what threw her was that the store appeared to be open because of the prepraration going on inside.

The race thing, seems so bizarre I can't help thinking it was misreported. THe French have always been enamoured of black American divas from the days of Josephine Baker - and she didn't have near as much money and clout!

Seems like just a catchy celebrity story pounced on and distorted for a headline. Wait and see what she says. "PR" is her middle name. Hey, it's practicallly her first name, in fact! :biggrin:
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apple
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delightful post Amanda..

it behooves me to behold
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jgoo
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I once went to the grocery store by my house and got there a full 5 minutes before it was supposed to close (even by the time on the clock there at the store!) and the guy was already locking up and refused to let me in! I told him there was still time before the closing time posted on the front door, and I tried explaining to him that I already knew what I wanted and could be in and out in under a minute, and he still said no, and then I told him that I was there to spend MONEY (didn't he want my money? I guess not...) and he still wouldn't let me in. Even more sad is the fact that I shop there all the time and I know almost everyone there, including the guy who wouldn't let me in!

Anyway, I don't know what that has to do with Oprah or people being racist but, yeah.... lol.
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KlavierBauer
Jun 22 2005, 06:32 PM
You can't? I do it all the time... must be the white-straight combo, the rest of the planet exists to make my life easier. MAN I love it!

Yeah Kenny - just try looking straight. You know, grow a moustache and dress like a cowboy. :D
In my defense, I was left unsupervised.
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QuirtEvans
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I had pretty much the same reaction as everyone else. Especially when I heard that the store's video cameras indicate that it happened just as the store says, the guard told her they were closed.

I think it's disgusting that Oprah allowed her spokesperson to describe it as a "crash moment". Fortunately, her show is on hiatus until the fall, and she says she won't talk about it until then; hopefully, she'll back off that stupid accusation by then.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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Mikhailoh
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Closed is closed, and 15 minutes late is a long time. These people have families and outside interests and all sorts of other things to do besides extend their hours to Oprah or anyone else. I suspect she'll do a fast backpedal on this one. She certainly ought to.
Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball
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QuirtEvans
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The employees were still there because they were setting up for a special event.

But closed is still closed.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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Jolly
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Geaux Tigers!
Money is power.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Donald Regan once said there are 4 kinds of money:

1. The poor.

2. The Middle-class

3. The Rich.

4. People with F-you money.

Oprah resides in the 4th category....
The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros
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kentcouncil
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Jolly
Jun 23 2005, 12:27 PM
Money is power.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Donald Regan once said there are 4 kinds of money:

1. The poor.

2. The Middle-class

3. The Rich.

4. People with F-you money.

Oprah resides in the 4th category....

Excellent observation.

Still striving for category 4... :biggrin:
It was a confusion of ideas between him and one of the lions he was hunting in Kenya that had caused A. B. Spottsworth to make the obituary column. He thought the lion was dead, and the lion thought it wasn't.

- P.G. Wodehouse
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KlavierBauer
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I had customers call at 5:06 on Saturday wanting to come in and play some pianos. We close at 5:00. I told them to come on in, and I stayed here over an hour with them.

They asked nicely though.
"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper
"He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple

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Yes, but did they (or do you think they will) buy anything from you?

Sorry for the mini-hijack.

Second question for ANYONE to answer if someone knows the number or the names...how many people here work or own a "piano shop"? It seems like a lot, right?
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johnmoonlight
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Amanda
Jun 22 2005, 09:14 PM
The chances are that the opposite happens so often that closing hours mean nothing to her - this then, in contrast, may have seemed like a rebuff. Of course, ask yourselves, how much she actually had to do with any direct encounters. Doesn;t she travel with a huge entourage? Chances are her "people" did most of the talking for her. That's one of the big things about being a celebrity - you're never supposed to have to blow your own horn! "Don't you know who I am? is the bellow of someone on the outs.

Even expensive jewelry houses in effect, have a "by appointment only" business - especially for big spenders. Of course, you DO have to make an appointment. She couldn't expect the clean-up crew and watch-men to wait on her!

Probably what threw her was that the store appeared to be open because of the prepraration going on inside.

The race thing, seems so bizarre I can't help thinking it was misreported. THe French have always been enamoured of black American divas from the days of Josephine Baker - and she didn't have near as much money and clout!

Seems like just a catchy celebrity story pounced on and distorted for a headline. Wait and see what she says. "PR" is her middle name. Hey, it's practicallly her first name, in fact! :biggrin:

I agree with you Amanda. We're not getting the complete/true story. Don't believe everything you read.
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QuirtEvans
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The race thing, seems so bizarre I can't help thinking it was misreported.


Oprah's spokesperson released a statement calling it a "crash moment". Hard to misreport that.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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Mikhailoh
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I think it is important to understand that we are talking about a store in France.. not in the Loop in Chicago. These people probably had no idea who Oprah Winfrey is, and, being French, might well not care if they did.

Now I confess have not yet been to France, but from my readings and friends who have lived there and the French I have met, I have seen evidence they tend to be pretty self-determined and independent people, so what Oprah.. or the Pope.. or Francois Mitterand want of them might well be of little or no interest to them. My impression is that Europeans in general are less concerned about pleasing others than Americans, by and large.

I guess my point here is that this whole incident probably had nothing to do with who Oprah is. Given the number of our black artists who have emigrated to France to escape racial predjudice, I very much doubt it had anything to do with race either.
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QuirtEvans
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For those who doubt that Oprah is alleging racism, from CNN this morning:

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On Wednesday, the New York Daily News weighed in with a different version of the story, saying Winfrey arrived just after the store had closed at 6:30 p.m. and there was no doubt about her identity. She saw shoppers still milling about inside and asked the Hermes staff at the door if she could dash in to make a quick purchase. A clerk said no, and so did a store manager. An unnamed "friend" quoted in the Daily News didn't use the term racism but suggested that if Celine Dion or Barbra Streisand had made a similar request, there wouldn't have been a problem. In this telling of the tale, the entire population of northern Africa was not maligned.

Internet postings often blended the two versions and were accompanied by outraged commentary, indignation and suggestions that Hermes start putting together an especially nice gift basket in the form of a crocodile Birkin. (The company had no comment on the subject of apologetic bouquets, jewelry or handbags.)

A spokeswoman at Winfrey's Harpo Productions confirmed the Daily News version of the story, saying that the incident was "Oprah's 'Crash' moment" -- a reference to the film in which racism unfolds in complex, subtle and surprising interactions. Winfrey also contacted Hermes' U.S. president to inform him of the incident. She plans to tell the story on her show when it returns from hiatus in September.
It would be unwise to underestimate what large groups of ill-informed people acting together can achieve. -- John D'Oh, January 14, 2010.
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