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Topic Started: Jun 17 2005, 12:49 PM (272 Views)
Jolly
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A rotten example of humanity....

http://www.komo4news.com/stories/37457.htm
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He apparently gained the trust of victims and parents by working as a home renovation contractor, and it appears that he didn't register as required, so that his history as a sex offender did not appear in the "Megan's Law" databases in California or other states, they said.


So they REQUIRE sex offenders to register, but have the offenders do it themselves? Then they sound shocked that the offender didn't bother to register?? We're not talking about people with a high regard for the rules, after all. :blink:
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Jolly
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Once again, we are back to crime and punishment.

What do we do with convicted sex offenders?

It looks like they cannot be rehabilitated, so have we come to the point that it is one strike, and you are gone...forever?
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QuirtEvans
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The fact that some cannot be rehabilitated doesn't mean that all cannot be rehabilitated.

That said, I struggle with how to deal with convicted sex offenders. I definitely have some sympathy for the notion that the punishment should be very, very high ... that way, if you have the urge, you know what the potential consequence is if you fail to control that urge. And I don't think we have a good way to distinguish those who have been rehabilitated, or learned their lesson, or whatever, from those who have not.
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Jolly
Jun 18 2005, 11:18 AM
Once again, we are back to crime and punishment.

What do we do with convicted sex offenders?

It looks like they cannot be rehabilitated, so have we come to the point that it is one strike, and you are gone...forever?

...or 36,000 strikes. :o

Well I'm a big supporter of harsh sentences that teach lessons. But I wont get into that.
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David Burton
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He apparently gained the trust of victims and parents by working as a home renovation contractor, and it appears that he didn't register as required, so that his history as a sex offender did not appear in the "Megan's Law" databases in California or other states, they said.


So they REQUIRE sex offenders to register, but have the offenders do it themselves? Then they sound shocked that the offender didn't bother to register?? WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WITH A HIGH REGARD FOR THE RULES, AFTER ALL. :blink:


Why do we assume they are? Because maybe quite a few people on the benches or arguing cases before them are themselves sex offenders who have yet to get caught? Please don't jump to the conclusion that I am some radical right-wing nut. I happen to know that there is sufficient grounds for what I am saying.

Jolly:
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Once again, we are back to crime and punishment.  What do we do with convicted sex offenders?  It looks like they cannot be rehabilitated, so have we come to the point that it is one strike, and you are gone...forever?


Before I give the obvious answer, let me ask just one more questions that has the same answer.

What do you do with a person who has a deadly virulent communicable disease?

Oh, and what do you suppose the incidence of violent sex offences would be then?

Violent sex offenders should be executed in the public square of the town where the offence took place not more than thirty days after sentencing.
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Jun 18 2005, 05:19 PM
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He apparently gained the trust of victims and parents by working as a home renovation contractor, and it appears that he didn't register as required, so that his history as a sex offender did not appear in the "Megan's Law" databases in California or other states, they said.


So they REQUIRE sex offenders to register, but have the offenders do it themselves? Then they sound shocked that the offender didn't bother to register?? WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WITH A HIGH REGARD FOR THE RULES, AFTER ALL. :blink:


Why do we assume they are? Because maybe quite a few people on the benches or arguing cases before them are themselves sex offenders who have yet to get caught? Please don't jump to the conclusion that I am some radical right-wing nut. I happen to know that there is sufficient grounds for what I am saying.

David - Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your comment. Someone who has repeated sexual offences obviously doesn't have a high regard for society's rules, or they wouldn't be committing the crimes in the first place. I don't see why they should be given the responsibility of registering themselves. Of course some of them won't if they can get away with not doing it. I guess I just don't see what you're saying.

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Jolly
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Jun 18 2005, 01:25 PM
David Burton
Jun 18 2005, 05:19 PM
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He apparently gained the trust of victims and parents by working as a home renovation contractor, and it appears that he didn't register as required, so that his history as a sex offender did not appear in the "Megan's Law" databases in California or other states, they said.


So they REQUIRE sex offenders to register, but have the offenders do it themselves? Then they sound shocked that the offender didn't bother to register?? WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WITH A HIGH REGARD FOR THE RULES, AFTER ALL. :blink:


Why do we assume they are? Because maybe quite a few people on the benches or arguing cases before them are themselves sex offenders who have yet to get caught? Please don't jump to the conclusion that I am some radical right-wing nut. I happen to know that there is sufficient grounds for what I am saying.

David - Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your comment. Someone who has repeated sexual offences obviously doesn't have a high regard for society's rules, or they wouldn't be committing the crimes in the first place. I don't see why they should be given the responsibility of registering themselves. Of course some of them won't if they can get away with not doing it. I guess I just don't see what you're saying.

Not putting words in David's mouth, but I remember an old article I read years ago about how to spot a high class prostitute...

1. She (most often a she) is college eductated, usually with a liberal arts degree.

2. She does not have "old money" to support her lifestyle.

3. She works at a job that can provide her with somewhat flexible hours, that allows her to rub elbows with the higher class of society, yet the job cannot support her lifestyle - think part-time at an art gallery.

4. She is often seen in the company of both married, and unmarried men. Most often successful businessmen, judges, attorneys, physicians, and other professional people. She tends to dress very well, but nothing that would attract undue attention.


Just because they are behind the bench, does not mean that folks don't engage in illegal practices. Oftentimes, it is easier for them to "get away" with something than those who stand in front of it....
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Just because they are behind the bench, does not mean that folks don't engage in illegal practices.


Unfortunately true. However, I don't think Jolly or anyone else here has data to support whether illegal behavior by judges is more prevalent, less prevalent, or about the same as the public at large.
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David Burton
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David - Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your comment.  Someone who has repeated sexual offences obviously doesn't have a high regard for society's rules, or they wouldn't be committing the crimes in the first place.  I don't see why they should be given the responsibility of registering themselves.  Of course some of them won't if they can get away with not doing it.  I guess I just don't see what you're saying.


I was being sarcastic. Half of what I say about people who should know better is sarcastic. The rest is deadly serious. Every day I hear some story about someone doing something that common sense dictates they shouldn't be doing and it only indicates that the fabric of society is disintegrating before our eyes. When I say, and I haven't changed my tune in twenty-five years, that the problem resides with the legal system, particularly the judges, and their liberal take on most social issues, I usually get the common shrug. So I react with sarcasm. I shouldn't be surprised that a lot of people don't get it.
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Jolly
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Jun 19 2005, 08:53 AM
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Just because they are behind the bench, does not mean that folks don't engage in illegal practices.


Unfortunately true. However, I don't think Jolly or anyone else here has data to support whether illegal behavior by judges is more prevalent, less prevalent, or about the same as the public at large.

Oh, I don't think it is more prevalent, but neither do I think it is less.

People are people... :shrug:
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