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| Larry | Jun 18 2005, 02:34 PM Post #151 |
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What - now you're going to support your statements by trying to inject remarks you copied off some nutcase website and try to tie what you "remember" me saying to that? That's pathetic. |
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| JBryan | Jun 18 2005, 02:52 PM Post #152 |
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Find it. http://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ulti...?/forum/10.html |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| jazzyd | Jun 18 2005, 02:54 PM Post #153 |
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I hope, for all our sakes, that one day you will copy and paste this: "I, The 89th Key, agree that free variation between these two forms [mediums and media] is present in most of the senses in modern English, with the exception of medium - a person believed to be in contact with the spirits of the dead - where the plural is always mediums." Now, if you'll excuse me, this desk is a bit wobbly. ![]() David |
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| Jeffrey | Jun 18 2005, 02:55 PM Post #154 |
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Larry: You said "I referred to the guy in question [editorial insert: Oscar Schindler] as her ancestor" Thank you for the link. My search internet search skills are not as good as yours. But you have admitted that my recollection is accurate in this case. You did originally say Oscar was Terri's ancestor, even though there is no chance whatsoever that he is. Schindler is not that uncommon a name. |
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| Jeffrey | Jun 18 2005, 03:02 PM Post #155 |
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JBryan: Larry already quoted the second time he mentioned this: "Then I referred to the guy in question as her ancestor. Now if her maiden name had been Smith or Jones, I probably wouldn't have made such a connection because the name is far too common. But the name Schindler is not exactly a common name. Do I know for a fact that she is a direct descendent of the famed Schindler? No, of course not. And only an idiot would try to argue that I did. Is it likely that she might be? Sure. They share an uncommon name. " Again: "I referred to the guy in question as her ancestor" Now I am going the theatre in a few minutes, but Larry acknowledges that he claimed what what I said he claimed in his original post, which is somewhere in the depths of the old CR. Please continue in my absence. |
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| Larry | Jun 18 2005, 03:02 PM Post #156 |
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Jeffrey, I'm beginning to think you're not very bright. This does *not* prove your recollection to be accurate, it simply proves that you are being selective in how you choose to present things, and either purposely or stupidly twisting what I said around. I made it clear that I was not saying she was related, that the point of my remark was merely the irony of her having the same name. The "ancestor" comment I have explained to you 3 times now. If you're too stupid to figure out what I was saying, that's one thing. But if you're just being pig headed, shut up. I'll go now, and tell all the genealogy researchers that tracing people through their last name is the wrong way to do it...... |
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| ivorythumper | Jun 18 2005, 04:18 PM Post #157 |
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It's interesting to note the fixation with surnames-- much easier than discussing the real issue and having to back away from bombastic rhetoric about how this is a theocratic view of life from a totalitarian-religious mindset. |
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| Phlebas | Jun 18 2005, 04:51 PM Post #158 |
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That was said a few times by me and others, when it was determined that 89th can't read a dictionary, although not in as concise a manner as your quote. Thanks for trying, anyway. |
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Random FML: Today, I was fired by my boss in front of my coworkers. It would have been nice if I could have left the building before they started celebrating. FML The founding of the bulk of the world's nation states post 1914 is based on self-defined nationalisms. The bulk of those national movements involve territory that was ethnically mixed. The foundation of many of those nation states involved population movements in the aftermath. When the only one that is repeatedly held up as unjust and unjustifiable is the Zionist project, the term anti-semitism may very well be appropriate. - P*D | |
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| ivorythumper | Jun 18 2005, 06:00 PM Post #159 |
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And the fixation with semantics.... |
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| Jeffrey | Jun 18 2005, 06:40 PM Post #160 |
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IT - It's not bombast. It is accurate. The American people doesn't like the government pushing it's finger into their private lives, and so soundly and overwhelmingly rejected the whacko religious right's attempt to do that in this case. Sorry, you lose. Larry: I don't see how to otherwise parse "I referred to the guy in question as her ancestor". I don't really care, but it goes to show that when you are arguing for something, you sometimes just make things up. That happened a lot on the Schiavo thread, since the anti-Terri people (you, Jolly, IT, etc.) needed to make stuff up in order to carry your theological views into public life and invade her privacy. |
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| ivorythumper | Jun 18 2005, 06:43 PM Post #161 |
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So you continue with your bombastic rhetoric and fail to argue against the point that the principle of life resides within the individual, and no one has the right to deprive a human being of life due to their inability to defend themselves. This does not convince me that I lost.
Now you are making stuff up. We are the PRO-Terri people. You are the one who wanted her snuffed. I can see why you would want privacy in this matter. So how was the theatre? |
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| Larry | Jun 18 2005, 07:53 PM Post #162 |
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Please excuse me, Jeffrey. I just got back from spending a wonderful evening with my lovely lady and her daughter, and I'm a bit more relaxed and peaceful. I've taken the time to read back over our conversation, and it has become clear to me that I have been debating a fool. Fools frustrate the hell out of me. Please feel free to continue being a fool, and I'll leave you to it. |
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| The 89th Key | Jun 18 2005, 09:44 PM Post #163 |
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Jazzy and Phlebe...there's a difference between understanding what someone means and them being correct. If I said, "Man, those Orioles are great! It's fun to go to they're games." You know what "they're" meant, even if it was 100% wrong. Phlebas was entirely wrong and he knows it! ![]() Here I'll refresh your memory. It states for the word "medium" the plural forms: ------------- - pl. media A means of mass communication, such as newpapers, magazines, radio, or television. - media (used with a sing. or pl. verb) The group of journalists and others who constitute the communications industry and profession. - pl. media Computer Science. An object or device, such as a disk, on which data is stored. - pl. mediums A person thought to have the power to communicate with the spirits of the dead or with agents of another world or dimension. Also called psychic. - pl. media 1. A surrounding environment in which something functions and thrives. 2. The substance in which a specific organism lives and thrives. 3. A culture medium. --------- ...the truth hurts, doesn't it Phlebe!
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| The 89th Key | Jun 18 2005, 09:47 PM Post #164 |
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Go ahead, keep coming back Phlebee, I'm just having fun with you. ![]() Although perhaps it's not being a good Christian when I enjoy your idiocy.
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| JBryan | Jun 18 2005, 10:12 PM Post #165 |
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Apparently it does not exist. You did not quote his remarks and this is as close as you came: http://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/ubb/ultimate...3/7.html#000165 I will let you do your own leg work in finding what he actually said. Since you have already (falsely)asserted that you quoted it so that he could not change it later then it should be easy for you to find. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| Steve Miller | Jun 18 2005, 10:27 PM Post #166 |
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Has there been any movement in Florida toward new legislation to cover cases such as the Schiavo case? It would be easy enough to pass new, clear laws to define what is to be done in such cases, and the sooner those laws are passed the sooner such cases will proceed through the courts minus the hand-wringing/rending of garments that currently characterize discussions on the subject. Until that happens, Jeb &cie are engaging in Pompous Political Posturing - nothing more - and ya'll are buying in to it. To bestow accolades upon him for his high moral principles is to reward him for spreading BS. |
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| jazzyd | Jun 18 2005, 11:02 PM Post #167 |
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I thought I'd give it one last shot. I see that he has ignored it. Pity.I can't take credit for its conciseness, of course, since it is basically word for word from dictionary.oed.com. ![]() David |
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| The 89th Key | Jun 18 2005, 11:17 PM Post #168 |
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I didn't ignore it Jazzy...I actually wrote you a post about it. Not only has every dictionary source confirmed the actual definition, but everywhere I've looked has stated that "mediums" is a word barely used anymore in everyday language. And if it's used it's purpose is to clarify that you're talking about psyhics in the plural form. Phlebas is wrong, I'll say that until he is able to re-write every dictionary.
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| jazzyd | Jun 18 2005, 11:30 PM Post #169 |
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Is my quote wrong? Yes or no. (And do consider where I got my information before you answer. :rolleyes: ) David |
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| The 89th Key | Jun 19 2005, 12:05 AM Post #170 |
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How would I know if your quote is right or wrong? Please provide the link...that is, if you pay the 300 bucks a year required to view it. I doubt you do though... Every possible online resource has stated that Phlebas is wrong both in the literal use of "mediums" and in the everyday usage of "mediums". |
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| jazzyd | Jun 19 2005, 12:33 AM Post #171 |
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Everything you have written on the subject has suggested that you think it is wrong. ![]()
You're not calling me a liar, are you? But you're quite right; I get free access. You have a PM, my friend. ![]() David |
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| ivorythumper | Jun 19 2005, 12:34 AM Post #172 |
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I'd like to see the OED citation as well. "Mediums" can, of course, be used in the same way that "stadiums" can be used. Not particularly literately, IMO, but no accounting for these things. There might be legitimate variations in British usage and American usage -- after all, you chaps bath yourselves (at least occassionally) and see no problems with sharing used rubbers. Merriam Webster gives "d. plural mediums : an individual held to be a channel of communication between the earthly world and a world of spirits." It is not obvious that other usages are acceptable. |
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| jazzyd | Jun 19 2005, 12:37 AM Post #173 |
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You'll have a PM shortly, IT. David |
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| Phlebas | Jun 19 2005, 03:34 AM Post #174 |
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If you took the time to read some of the trade journals in your industry (marketing/advertising) instead of your constant sniveling on this forum, you would know that's not the case. Also, you might be less out of your depth when talking about semantics, usage, and other things you've demonstrated no knowledge of. |
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Random FML: Today, I was fired by my boss in front of my coworkers. It would have been nice if I could have left the building before they started celebrating. FML The founding of the bulk of the world's nation states post 1914 is based on self-defined nationalisms. The bulk of those national movements involve territory that was ethnically mixed. The foundation of many of those nation states involved population movements in the aftermath. When the only one that is repeatedly held up as unjust and unjustifiable is the Zionist project, the term anti-semitism may very well be appropriate. - P*D | |
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| Jeffrey | Jun 19 2005, 05:00 AM Post #175 |
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JBryan - "Apparently it does not exist. You did not quote his remarks" Here is your original quote from Larry, from the old Coffee Room thread On Michael Shiavo of March 29. I can't believe I wasted 15 minutes finding it: Larry: "Does anyone else find it ironic that her maiden name is Schindler? Her ancestor managed to help hundreds of Jews escape the death camps, and now Terri is in a death camp herself, at the hands of the State of Florida, and Governor Greer." Larry is now proven as a flat out liar, who tried to use lots of hand waving insults in this thread to divert the issue. Here is the full link: http://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/ubb/ultimate.../10/9162/2.html I await sincere apologies from Larry and JBryan. You may assume I will have zero respect for their intellectual integity until they arrive. |
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