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Titans #17; September 2009
Topic Started: Jun 10 2009, 11:20 PM (4,579 Views)
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Written by Pat McCallum; Art by Angel Unzueta and Wayne Faucher; Cover by Angel Unzueta

Spotlight on Beast Boy! Gar Logan grows tired of not being taken seriously by his Titans teammates. And what he plans on doing about it will shock you!

DC Universe | 32pg. | Color | $2.99 US

On Sale September 9, 2009
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Well looks like Beast Boy has the next day-in-the-life story. And look at all those torn up photos... Curse DC for starting OYL right at the start of their relationship. Lot's of moments we didn't get to see...
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Yeah. This will probably be an issue focusing on them in general. Perhaps shepard things along in this obviously long running plotline.

That picture front and center looks the best.

Also, yeah. It pisses me off that we missed a lot thanks to the OYL jump. Meh.
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Well at least we got a bit of it in WW3 and throughout 52.

If anything it can't be saying "Its over for good" as Raven dumped him for his own protection already. I think its more along the lines of "Beast Boy re evaluates what he wants" and probably gets over being pissed off at Raven and decides he needs to figure out what their relationship is now. They probably won't get back together in this issue, but we should still keep our eye on it.

And damn that last picture looks nice.

So, solicit should be on the 20th?
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I'm guessing the solicit will be out this Monday. I'm resuming my duties with the solicits too, so expect to see them up the day they arrive.

By the way, King,I like having you around, just to let you know. I wish we had more comic readers here to discuss this stuff with.

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If anything it can't be saying "Its over for good" as Raven dumped him for his own protection already.

If they really intended to end it they would have just done it. Instead they're keeping it fresh and at the forefront. No, it's nowhere near "over for good".

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I think its more along the lines of "Beast Boy re evaluates what he wants" and probably gets over being pissed off at Raven and decides he needs to figure out what their relationship is now.

It'll probably show us a bit more of what he does in his off time. Plus some brooding over Raven and trying to figure stuff out. We'll see, I guess.

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They probably won't get back together in this issue, but we should still keep our eye on it.

The chances they'll get back together in this issue are close to nil. Their Blackest Night tie in will be in full swing by then and I doubt they would do something like that while said bigger storyline is going on. In fact, I'd bet against it.

Brother Blood Junior is supposed to be coming back before too long though. My bet is that will be the storyline to watch. We've always gotten good things when Junior came around.
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Little bastard does so much damage to Raven yet boosts out potential pairing up through the roof. I love and hate him all at once.

All very good points Dl, and I agree. More then likely the issue will probably give us some insight into how he feels about Raven, so that alone will probably justify the purchase. Hell, it may even lead into the return of Brother Blood somehow, you never know.

We'll see. I'll be waiting for the solicit.
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By the way, King,I like having you around, just to let you know. I wish we had more comic readers here to discuss this stuff with.

Ahh... Acceptance. It's quite nice. Thanks dl316bh (i'm totally clueles as what thats supposed to mean, by the way) I find your opinions and insights regaurding the comic's direction very interesting and quite soundly based.

Ok, now that our egos are both stroked...

They certainly won't get back together (or anything close) within this issue. In fact I'd be surprised if Raven even shows up in this issue for more than just an awkward silent passing in the hallway or maybe some flash backs. If this is anything like the Cyborg story (which everyone should read, not the best art but that's another story) then this one will just address where Gar is and set up for what kind of mind set he'll be in when the next arc starts up.

As for Sabastian (brother blood) I think he will be showing up pretty soon. If you look at those pencilings from the link in the #16 disscusion, the last few pages show the team fighting a bunch of hooded enemies that look very similar to Blood's followers. there is also some guy with a cape who might be Blood, but without the color and texture it's hard to tell, particularly since he seems to be fighting one of the hooded people...

I suppose we'll know eventually...

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Thanks dl316bh (i'm totally clueles as what thats supposed to mean, by the way)

It's not really anything with a deep meaning. I kind of flitted around the net under different usernames until I came up with this one. I liked it enough and just stuck with it.

DL are my first and last initials. The 316 part actually comes from wrestling; back when I first thought of it Stone Cold Steve Austin was a big deal and Austin 316 was something like his catchphrase. The BH are the initials of an old cat I used to have, Butthead, named after the cartoon character.

Not exactly a username that rolls off the tongue, but it worked well enough, so I kept it. Everyone calls me DL though. Or Debby Cakes.

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In fact I'd be surprised if Raven even shows up in this issue for more than just an awkward silent passing in the hallway or maybe some flash backs.

That would be my bet.

I have to say though, its kind of nice to realize that DC seems to recognize the ship as popular and a draw. Notice how all the plots have been wrapped up from the first two arcs. GarxRae is the only one left right now and the drama is being played up while all the other pieces are arranged.

Kind of like a "hey guys, we know this needs work, but look at that tantilizing bit over there and don't leave yet" sort of thing.

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As for Sabastian (brother blood) I think he will be showing up pretty soon. If you look at those pencilings from the link in the #16 disscusion, the last few pages show the team fighting a bunch of hooded enemies that look very similar to Blood's followers. there is also some guy with a cape who might be Blood, but without the color and texture it's hard to tell, particularly since he seems to be fighting one of the hooded people...

My bets are on eighteen or nineteen for when Sebastion shows up. Under normal circumstances, I might think that those were his followers in that art for 16, but considering the nature of these done in ones I'm figuring they are either lackeys of another villain or something new. Starfire is not linked to Sebastion in any story related way, so it would be kind of weird for him to return in her done in one.

Depending on how they roll with this, it could start with 18. Assuming that this pattern holds (The popular New Teen Titans getting a day in the life each) Raven should get one after Gar. Whether Sebastion appears there depends on if the writer wants to use that done in one to springboard or tease to next arc or just keep it a short, single issue story with no other real ties.

If not there my guess is 19. The Blackest Night tie in should be wrapped up by then so the main title would likely punch in it's new writer and get moving back to the arc structure. I doubt guys like Wally or Roy are going to get an issue; unlike the others there's absolutely no need considering they regularly appear elsewhere. So I figure Raven will be the last and then back to normal arc structuring.

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I suppose we'll know eventually...

Hopefully we'll get a better idea of what we're looking at once the full solicits are released. I'm not going to bank on it though; we'll probably have to wait it out. They can be horrifyingly vague with these solicits when they want to be.

Funny how that goes; sometimes the solicits reveal too much and sometimes they tell you nothing at all.
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So much fluff missed out on...someone will die...

On a side note, I absolute adore the photo in the front and because I have the power to do so and as well am desperate enough to attempt so;

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Yes it may not be proportinate and yes it is the shape of a hexagon but that is not the point here.
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That's great art eh? They're so happy together there too. ^^

A user on RBSU pointed out that one of the pictures in the far back to the right looks kind of like the AS versions of the two.
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This seems kinda outta the pot line for Gar. If anyone read #14 on Vic's spotlight, it shows Gar has somewhat gotten over Raven dumping him and is now on an online dating service.

As for these fillers, if that's what we're calling them, it seems that the theme is break-ups and hook-ups; Vic searches for what he needs to be happy and ends up dating, Kory's pissed with Dick and probably needs a way to move on, and now this.

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Just because he's on a dating service doesn't mean squat, really. You can go out with ten girls after a breakup and still not really want them in any fashion; or at least not like the original you broke up with. Besides that, Gar's always masked his pain by hitting up other women.

You don't have to be over someone to date.
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I guess I over exadurated on the emphasis on "over". On over, I meant basically on what you said on masking his pain by dating and joking around rather then what we've been getting with Gar just mopping around and talking about it none stop.

If I were to put down a wild card, I'd go with LM's guess on it being on Gar's insight into how he feels about Raven, then I'd add in this said insight while he's dating some random civie. Thus giving up the dating service.
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Sad thing about this is that DC will milk the relationship for all its worth, as long as they can squeeze more money out of it they'll do their darndest. Mainly because happy relationships don't make good entertainment :P

If my last attempt to read the teen titans comic hadn't left me feeling like I needed to read a buttload of other titles I'd probably try to get back into it :(
And I'm not sure why, but this cover made me want to make Motivationals out of it... Look upon my works ye mighty and despair :P

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Something must have messed up in your tags Zenny; I don't see any of the images.
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