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| dl316bh | Jun 5 2009, 03:32 PM Post #31 |
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Huh. It does look cool. Looks like a highly refined, smoother Silent Hill. Kinda cinematic too. If that's what they've been doing with the years since it was last heard of then they've used the time well. |
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| Lizard-Man | Jun 5 2009, 04:10 PM Post #32 |
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Does look like they have used it well. I hope the finished project comes out on schedule in Spring 2010. By the way, since we're on E3, I wanna talkc about God Of War 3 for a second. In the complete demo from gametrailers, it shows one of the Titans attacking Kratos in the last few seconds of the demo. Huh? Whats going on? I thought they were on the same side? Then I got to thinking... what if in the end Kratos betrays everyone and kills everyone in this game figuring they're all in his way on his quest for vegeance? While I was thinking that, another idea popped up. I thought "Hey, when Kratos was in that Temple of Fate and able to go back in time to change said fate... why didn't he go back to the night he killed his wife and child to save them?" Was he just blinded by hatred for Zeus to think properly or... well... does he no longer care about that significant part of his life? I'm just wondering is all. I mean, I know Kratos isn't the nicest of people out of there, but... I thought all his anger stems from the fact his life turned to **** on that night? Why wouldn't he correct it? Was he unable to travel back to that time? |
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| dl316bh | Jun 5 2009, 04:17 PM Post #33 |
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He probably couldn't. Going back to take out Zeus didn't affect anything in the timeline aside from creating a loop; you never saw the gods again in the game up to that point, so there was no reason for past Kratos to think Zeus was under seige and the like. If he'd gone back and tried to save his wife and kid, however, it would definitely have been a time paradox; without the deaths of his wife and kid, nothing that occurred up to that point would have happened and time itself would, in theory, fall apart. Whether he knew that or not is debatable, but he was betrayed by his father and had only a few seconds left to choose the destination before the Temple collapsed. Revenge was tops on his mind; he'd already avenged his family by killing Ares.
I doubt Kratos managed to free all the Titans. I wouldn't be surprised if Zeus and the rest tried to sick a Titan still under captivity after him. Who knows. There are rarely any good guys in greek myth; most of the higher beings in those myths are douchebags. A traitor amongst the Titans? Wouldn't surprise me. |
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| Lizard-Man | Jun 5 2009, 04:53 PM Post #34 |
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Fair enough I suppose. I'm not sure how time travel works in God of War so I just thought I'd ask. I guess I can chalk this all up to "Well if he did that there wouldn't be much of a game now would there?" and leave it at that. Probably suits the reasoning best from my point of view. And let me add, that considering there are few good guys in Greek Mythology that applies to Kratos as well. I mean, I like his character and his story, but he's still a dick nonetheless. I want to be clear, this isn't character bashing, its just how he is. He kills a lot of people in his quest for vengeance afterall, innocent or otherwise. I hope I'm not opening up a can of worms here. I mean, I like Deadpool, so who am I to criticse people's tastes in game heroes. I still haven't played God of War 2 because of how bad things really get for everyone involved in the game. I'm just gonna shut up now. |
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| dl316bh | Jun 5 2009, 05:21 PM Post #35 |
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Kratos is definitely a dick in some ways, which is why he fits in rather well alongside greek myth. I usually look at him as flawed in some ways; he's a warrior spartan obsessed with victory and glory. That brings about several reprehensible acts. Yet, the times the game is set in were much different, as well. What is considered wrong now might have been considered glory and victory then. Think, for instance what his spartan brothers must have thought of him when he was the god of war at the start of II. Probably something along the lines of a warrior god bringing them to the power and glory they believe they deserve. Helping them to be the best. What I like about Kratos, however, is that he's not completely reprehensible. He is not without guilt. Or love; we know for a fact he genuinely loved his family and was horrified by what Ares had tricked him into doing, which started the events of the first game into motion. It helps him feel a bit more real to me instead of just some dick antagonist you can't empathize with on any level; how some people get off on characters with no redeeming qualities I'll never understand.
Actually, I've notice he only kills someone "innocent" if they're in his way or impede him in some fashion. Any other times it's up to the player to decide whether to kill innocents or not. Not defending him, but just pointing out I don't see him as just killing everything that moves. There are rarely points where any innocent people are running around anyways. Just during the opening levels, usually. |
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| Al | Jun 5 2009, 06:22 PM Post #36 |
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Dl, I think you missed the most important thing about the entire project. WAY bigger than a new Castlevania. 1: Raiden gets his own series. 2: PeaceWalker. Although I think those all fall under the Kojima umbrella. So we can basically sum up E3 with just the word "Kojima." |
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| dl316bh | Jun 5 2009, 06:24 PM Post #37 |
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I'm still catching up al, so yeah, I guess I did miss that. Interesting; hopefully it's badass Raiden and not whiney Raiden. Actually, I'd sum E3 up in THREE words: "Kojima is awesome". Any way you look at it, I'm still stoked for a Castlevania by Kojima. I mean, seriously; that has so much potential it's not even remotely funny. |
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| Al | Jun 5 2009, 06:40 PM Post #38 |
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I'd play it, though Castlevania isn't traditionally one of my favorites. We own Symphony of the Night, which my brother gave up on. Historically, I'm better at games he fails at than he is, so maybe I'll give it a whirl. It's Ninja-Raiden. Not Whiny Raiden. And, hopefully, Rosemary is long dead. |
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| dl316bh | Jun 5 2009, 06:44 PM Post #39 |
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Symphony is one of the two greatest Castlevania's of all time. Rondo of Blood is the other. If I had to name a third, Order of Ecclesia would be it. So I'd reccomend Symphony for sure; it's a classic. I'm a Castlevania fan through and through, but I've kind of grown bored with it's direction of late. Order of Ecclesia is the exception. The games started becoming more or less routine when it went mostly to handhelds; even the best of the lot pre-Ecclesia, Aria of Sorrow, felt too been there-done that. So Kojima doing one excites me partially because it's fresh blood.
Excellent. This pleases DL. I read that it's a 360 exclusive first, but now it's being said that new Metal Gear will probably be on the PS3 as well. Man, exclusive doesn't quite mean what it used to anymore. |
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| dl316bh | Jun 7 2009, 12:56 AM Post #40 |
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Woah. I just learned that Square-Enix had something else to show at E3: an announcement of a new Front Mission game that's coming too all the major systems. No real details yet, but I'm stoked nonetheless. I was a bit down when Front Mission 5 wasn't even considered for crossing here to America. Couldn't help being worried the series wouldn't be ported here anymore considering that it's never really been a hit here as far as I can tell. Oh, and when I say "major consoles" I mean all the major stuff but the Wii. |
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| dl316bh | Jun 8 2009, 11:44 PM Post #41 |
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http://e3.gamespot.com/story/6211351/alien...view;title;prev There was apparently an early demo of the upcoming Alien vs Predator game at E3. In case you don't know, it's being done by Rebellion, the guys who did the first AVP game; so you know it'll be good. That's reinforced by this preview; it sounds damn awesome. Hopefully Aliens: Colonial Marines is coming along as nicely. It's supposed to be coming out sometime after AVP. There hasn't been much word on it since it was announced to be delayed though. |
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| Lizard-Man | Jun 9 2009, 12:24 AM Post #42 |
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Oh I did see it, it looks sweet. Now I just want to know how the Alien campaign will play. |
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