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Nintendo DSi: Why no topic yet?; yippieee
Topic Started: Feb 19 2009, 07:05 AM (339 Views)
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Old news, I know. But why is there no topic for it yet?

"Nintendo have announced that a new DS is on the horizon. The updated console will be called the Nintendo DSi. (Pictures Below) There are some interesting features they have decided to add, such as: a SD card slot, 0.3 and 3 megapixel camera, internal storage space, music player, bigger LCD screens, built in web browser, and the usage of Mii's. This new console is actually thinner and lighter than the DS Lite, however, there is no longer a GBA slot. The DSi will go on sale in Japan on November 1st for $179.99, and in other markets sometime next year."
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My opinion:
I thought it was kind of funny that this is coming out about 21 days before my birthday. I'm considering getting it, but I'm not too sure. I haven't really been all that interested in the DS until recently, watching my brother play some of the newer titles and realizing more and more homebrew potential. The cameras are probably "so-so" considering the manufacturer. Nintendo isn't gonna make a kid's system with an amazing camera. 0.3 on the inside, and 3.0 on the outside is just way too tiny for my standards, and I'm not interested in the gameplay value of it at all.
The new memory card slot is a pretty cool feature, though. I for some reason believe that with it, Nintendo will make producing homebrew much much harder, though I highly doubt it to be an impossible thing in the near future. The screens are pretty nice, and the new button arrangements seem tight.
In my opinion, the DS is WAY far ahead of the PSP in sales and competition. The only reason people buy the PSP is homebrew and things like that now. Oh, and little stupid kids that are like "OMG PORTABUHL INTARBUTTZ! :awesome:" only to be disappointed that you actually need a wireless router WITH you. Although, I like the PSP functionality more, the DS DOES have a larger, and for the most part, more entertaining game library, but the handful of great games the PSP does have, plus some amazing homebrew, are twice the game most games for the DS are.
...Except maybe Pokemon...
Who knows, I might pick it up. I might wait and see how hard it is, if possible, to hack it, THEN I'll get one.
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Mostly because there's not much to talk about. It's pretty much just a DS Lite with a couple pixel cameras and it's own DSi shop that's probably going to be completely overpriced. Plus there won't even be GBA functionality. I've always found camera's a useless addition to games, so considering most games will be playable in full on both, there's not much reason to by into what is essentially a gimmick.

Watch, just like the Wii's motion control, I can guarantee this system will never take full advantage of it's "innovation". Which means all the extra feature will be good for is taking low-res pictures. I'm pretty sure digital camera's are cheap enough for this to be laughable in this day and age.

By the way, that homebrew potential? Don't hold your breath. Homebrewers are working on cracking it, but for the moment homebrew on the DSi is impossible. Flashcards have been blocked; Nintendo wanted to be sure of this.
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Feb 19 2009, 07:05 AM
Old news, I know. But why is there no topic for it yet?

There is.

And it's a rather OLD topic at that.
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Feb 19 2009, 09:05 AM
There is.

And it's a rather OLD topic at that.

Well then that must be why I missed by it. Oops. =P This can be closed if need be.

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By the way, that homebrew potential? Don't hold your breath. Homebrewers are working on cracking it, but for the moment homebrew on the DSi is impossible. Flashcards have been blocked; Nintendo wanted to be sure of this.


Failure. Epic epic failure. That was going to be my only real reason for buying it. Bye bye consideration of useless investment~
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I kind of want this now that I know it has a music player

I didn't know it had that much stuff jammed into it, I'm disappointed that there's no GBA slot though (kind of ruins some games) but I still have my GBA SP so I'm covered there.

I don't see the point in the camera though, unless like, there was a topless women parade in town and you forgot your camera and cell phone.

I'd consider buying it if the PRICE WASN'T SO HIGH X_X
then again I bought a DS lite for 120...
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Feb 19 2009, 05:38 PM
I kind of want this now that I know it has a music player

I didn't know it had that much stuff jammed into it, I'm disappointed that there's no GBA slot though (kind of ruins some games) but I still have my GBA SP so I'm covered there.

I don't see the point in the camera though, unless like, there was a topless women parade in town and you forgot your camera and cell phone.

I'd consider buying it if the PRICE WASN'T SO HIGH X_X
then again I bought a DS lite for 120...

I think they put that in because there are going to be some new games that would use it or something.

Anyway, I'm sticking to my regular DS Lite until it dies--and when it does, I'll probably replace it with yet another DS Lite. The DSi just has a bunch of unnecessary stuff--I cringe at the thought of needing the camera ability for a video game because that'll probably just make it annoying.

Kinda like needing the microphone in Cooking Mama 2. The only awesome part of the microphone was when I was playing Phoenix Wright and I could yell OBJECTION! during break in class for a legit reason. :DDD

As for the homebrew thing, you can still get the DS Lite for that--and it'll probably be cheaper when the DSi comes out.

I know Kenny was bragging about reading Eragon on his DS, and he has a bunch of games he downloaded that worked pretty well like Ninja Gaiden. All you need is a DS game cartridge that's modded with a mini-SD card slot; it costs about $30. Get a bunch of games for the price of an average new game.
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Feb 19 2009, 08:38 PM
I kind of want this now that I know it has a music player

I didn't know it had that much stuff jammed into it, I'm disappointed that there's no GBA slot though (kind of ruins some games) but I still have my GBA SP so I'm covered there.

I don't see the point in the camera though, unless like, there was a topless women parade in town and you forgot your camera and cell phone.

I'd consider buying it if the PRICE WASN'T SO HIGH X_X
then again I bought a DS lite for 120...

Thing is, you could by all of those options (minus the camera), and alot of other cool stuff like homebrew applications and Emu's for around a tenth of the price. The R4DS flashcard, for example. Although, that particular one is around $30 for the mini SD card you get with it too.
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Feb 19 2009, 09:09 PM
As for the homebrew thing, you can still get the DS Lite for that--and it'll probably be cheaper when the DSi comes out.

I know Kenny was bragging about reading Eragon on his DS, and he has a bunch of games he downloaded that worked pretty well like Ninja Gaiden. All you need is a DS game cartridge that's modded with a mini-SD card slot; it costs about $30. Get a bunch of games for the price of an average new game.

Already know. I have an R4 myself. Got a pretty good deal on a bundle with a MicroSD card too.

However, the thing about this is that the DS Lite isn't going to be kept on the market forever. I suspect after a while of the DSi being out, DS Lites will be slowly phased out. So it'll be an option for a while, but not forever.

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Thing is, you could by all of those options (minus the camera), and alot of other cool stuff like homebrew applications and Emu's for around a tenth of the price. The R4DS flashcard, for example. Although, that particular one is around $30 for the mini SD card you get with it too.

To add to this, Moonshell in particular works extremely well for your music needs.

That's the funny thing about all this. Half the "upgrades" this thing is supposed to offer can be nabbed free through homebrew.

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I don't see the point in the camera though, unless like, there was a topless women parade in town and you forgot your camera and cell phone.

That's about the only point I could ever see a use for it; and they'd be pretty low-res pictures at that. XD
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Feb 19 2009, 08:38 PM
I kind of want this now that I know it has a music player

I didn't know it had that much stuff jammed into it, I'm disappointed that there's no GBA slot though (kind of ruins some games) but I still have my GBA SP so I'm covered there.

I don't see the point in the camera though, unless like, there was a topless women parade in town and you forgot your camera and cell phone.

I'd consider buying it if the PRICE WASN'T SO HIGH X_X
then again I bought a DS lite for 120...

But you can simply use a flash card for the music, pictures, and videos. :awesome: And the whole GBA slot is mere convenience. I'd rather use one system than two. XD The camera will be nothing but a useless frustration, leaving you wondering why you spent so much on so little. Also, the price you paid for the DS is completely justifiable considering the innovation of the system at the time.
You can just do so much more with a flash card than with a DSi, it's just completely clear cut. The only feature that doesn't make it a downgrade is improved WiFi capabilities, but really, how often do you see yourself SERIOUSLY browsing the intarwebz with your DS? And if you want a web browser, a flash card can provide that also.
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I'd totally want something better than a 3.0 megapixel camera if I'm going to a naked women parade. XDDDD

But seriously though, no matter who you are, if you're expecting next gen capabilities and graphics from the DSi, you're surely in for some disappointment.
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I'm most astounded at what they're asking for it. That's something like a fifty or so dollar jump for what amounts to minimal changes or even upgrades. If anything, the price should have gone down; they've removed GBA functionality, which means less internal parts.

The SD slot might be convenient, but something inside tells me it won't be. The Wii has absolutely abysmal system memory yet has an SD slot. The problem? You may as well wipe your ass with it. If you save any channels to the card, you can't boot them from the card and have to copy them back to the system before they can be played.

Translation: Nintendo made what was supposed to be a feature worthless in their niave attempts to combat piracy.

If they did that for the DSi... yeah. What would be the point of even getting one? The internal memory is likely to be abysmal, so if they have any crap running like they did with the Wii the DSi shop becomes worthless.
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I was getting EXTREMELY tired of seeing all the kids on all of my forums that I'm on screaming "OH MY GOD THIS IS SOOOOO COOL! : DDD I HAV 2 GET IT!!!!111!1"

So I posted this little rant. I'm really not too sure why I'm sharing it here, but I thought I would. :awesome:

"Ahh, the Nintendo DSi. A "capable" handheld gaming system boasting two cameras, a microphone, dual screens, one being a touchscreen (where have we seen that before?), and a Micro SD memory card slot.
Sounds awesome, right?
Oh, did I mention it costs almost TWO HUNDRED F***ING DOLLARS?
What a joke. The new Nintendo DSi is one of the biggest scams of 2009. It's got the same features as the Nintendo DS and DS Lite, except the two new cameras. The new cameras are sh***y, at best. A 0.3 megapixel camera on the inside, and a 3.0 megapixel camera on the inside. The smaller camera is going to be meant to play games, and the very thought of playing something like Mario Party or Pokemon with a camera makes me shudder. Three megapixels on the outside isn't anything to smile about, either, that's as much as my old digital camera from 2003. Tiny pictures, and considering the company making it, low quality tiny pictures.
The SD card slot is supposed to make it have a larger range of media capabilities, like make it a music player, picture gallery, and maybe a movie player. The only thing is, you could do that with EVERY DS the SAME EXACT WAY. The only really new feature with the SD card is that there's not a DS store, which is completely pointless considering how you pay for your merchandise. I'm so sick and tired of POINT systems to pay for things. How crazy is that? Like with the Xbox 360, you have to pay $20 for something that doesn't even take all of the points. What a waste of money.
Did I mention that the memory card slot actually took the place of the GBA slot? So, if you want to play your old GBA games on your DS, too bad. You'll have to go buy them from the store. Again. I know I know, "Well I've got an old GBA laying around here, so it doesn't matter! : D"; but don't you think it'd be pretty annoying having to switch out the systems constantly, and have to buy batteries for the GBA or charge it up too? It's much more convenient to have it all in one system. Of course, if you already own the games, you could legally download ROMs onto the SD card, but as far as anyone really knows, the DSi could be unhackable, and I wouldn't want to waste $180 to find out.
The DSi also has slightly larger screens. ....Slightly. It doesn't really make a difference to me, to be quite honest; if it still has the same problems as all of the other DS screens, then it's actually a BAD thing that the screens are larger. Glare, color distortion and the lack of being able to see it from any other angle than straight ahead are all problems that every Nintendo handheld system has had from day one. I wouldn't want to have MORE problems. Besides, a barely larger screen isn't enough to consider it justifiable to pay so much for it.
The control layout is slightly different; the start buttons are lined up against the bottom screen and there's a power button again. ...Yay. It's still too small for me to consider an amazing control layout compared to the PSP, honestly. But Nintendo has never had the best control layouts except the NES and SNES. Nintendo Gamecube and N64 controllers still haunt me in my sleep.
Technically, the WiFi has improved slightly. It's supposed to be stronger and more flexible, and of course, you get the Nintendo Store and a web browser. The Nintendo Store is horrible and overpriced, and the web browser is pointless. You can simply drag and drop a web browser onto a flash card for the original DS and install it. Easy. Besides, how often do you see yourself SERIOUSLY sitting there, browsing Google or Wikipedia or Myspace or something on a Nintendo DS? Do you know how FRUSTRATING that would be? I get annoyed enough trying to use my PSP like that. The only improvement really is the fact that it supports WPA passwords. So now you can type in your routers named password if that's how you configured it. ...Or, instead of paying almost $200, you can pay $10 to $30 on eBay for a USB adapter that works pretty much anywhere.
I highly doubt there will be that many exclusive games for it, and if there are, I would never ever touch them.
All in all, the only thing the DSi is, is a scam to con parents who don't know any better into buying their drone kids the latest and greatest shiny toy. It kind of reminds me of the iPod craze. It's just a regular piece of useless s**t covered in fake gold and kittens. The SD card is completely abysmal considering the loss of the GBA slot. You can do absolutely everything with the new SD card slot that you could with the old DS flashcards, and even more. Once I get my DS Lite, if it ever breaks or gets stolen, I will search anywhere I can for a new DS Lite or an old DS.
In my opinion, it's a downgrade. It's more useless than the PSP Bright, and if you're expecting newgen games and capabilties, you are guaranteed disappointment."
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