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Sonic Unleashed; LAST UPDATE: 11/24/2008
Topic Started: Mar 23 2008, 07:49 PM (6,575 Views)
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Well, according to video game continuity, the Sonic series has always taken place on Earth. When we were younger, we always thought that the planet Sonic and the others lived in were Mobius, what with Green Hill and everything. Then came Sonic Adventure, and the environments were... well, pretty realistic. Maybe this is just me, but over time, we've kind of gotten used to the fact that levels in later Sonic games, with the exceptions of the Advance series, Rush series, and Sonic Heroes, were realistic, and had us running through places like Emerald Coast, Westopolis, Kingdom Valley... plus, Sega's already done the real world thing with Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games that placed our two video game heroes in Beijing, China.

I'll be honest. While I think it's cool that Sonic Team is implementing real world locations into Unleashed, I think we all know by now that the Sonic series has always taken place on Earth, they don't have to try and prove it to us every single game. Yes, going through realistic levels would be a nice touch every now and then, but not every game has to be like that. It wouldn't hurt to have levels that are more bright and colourful.

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It's just like if they tried to place Mario in New York City. I mean, yeabuwha?


"Mario is Missing", anyone?
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I'm kind of opposed to trying to make everything realistic these days. Everyone seems to be trying to do it. To comics, video games, etcetera. News flash, the real world is often what we play these games to escape.

I know they claim the series to have always taken place on our Earth, but I don't buy it. The games pre-Adventure were always so wacky and out there that you really could not help getting sucked into the outlandish takes on reality. It may have been an Earth, but it sure as hell wasn't ours.

Now, they're intent on making Sonic into real life locations every single time a damn game comes out. Fine, he takes place on earth. Stop shoving it down my throat.

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Emerald Coast, Westopolis, Kingdom Valley...

Well, those weren't any more real life than most Sonic stages from before. It wasn't until they kept veering furthur and furthur into the dark and realistic that it got unbearable. With this, they're using real life locations in most of the game. It's like the ultimate extension of their pipe dream.

Frankly, it's gotten so bad that I consider Pre-Adventure games and post Adventure games to be their own seperate entities. Anything past Adventure did not happen except in it's own, new continuity.

What can I say? It works for me.

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"Mario is Missing", anyone?

Bleh. But I try to cut that game some slack. It was one of those educational deals.

A better example is the movie. My goodness, the people behind that movie had to be smoking the mushrooms that have always been hinted at in the actual Mario games.
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Ugh. Mario is missing. I remember playing that one at my cousin's.
Horrible it was. In my opinion. But I agree. Sonic in New York isn't THAT weird. But Sonic in Las Vegas would be really fun. What would be better, Sonic in Canada.
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What would be better, Sonic in Canada.

Well, that certainly came out of nowhere.

Yes, I'm sure everybody would love to see Sonic roam around through the cold, dreary land of the Canucks.

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Frankly, it's gotten so bad that I consider Pre-Adventure games and post Adventure games to be their own seperate entities. Anything past Adventure did not happen except in it's own, new continuity.

What can I say? It works for me.


And yet in Sonic Chronicles, apparently Sonic reminisces back in his earlier days of fighting Eggman, in such places as Green Hill, Emerald Hill, Angel Island, Palmtree Panic...

You're right, the games certainly do take place on Earth, but even though his Earth might share some of the places that exist on our Earth like Mykonos, Greece, or China, or New York, his Earth isn't like ours at all, no sir. There are still some differences. If Sonic Adventure 2 and Shadow the Hedgehog are of any indication, apparently, in the Sonic series, the President (one who isn't George Bush) lives in a White House that isn't in Washington at all, but rather is on the other side of the country. If I was to guess, probably somewhere in Nevada, or Utah, or possibly Arizona. And even then, the cities in that area aren't real cities (Central City, Westopolis), but are fictional.

Also, if Sonic Adventure 2 is to be believed, South Island (where Green Hill is) is located somewhere in the Pacific Ocean. Again, more proof that Sonic's Earth is completely separate from ours, even though they bear many similarities.

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A better example is the movie. My goodness, the people behind that movie had to be smoking the mushrooms that have always been hinted at in the actual Mario games.


Bob Hoskins even said once that that was the worst movie he ever took part in.
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Yes, I'm sure everybody would love to see Sonic roam around through the cold, dreary land of the Canucks.

Depends on where. I can't think of too many places that would make for an exciting Sonic level though.

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And yet in Sonic Chronicles, apparently Sonic reminisces back in his earlier days of fighting Eggman, in such places as Green Hill, Emerald Hill, Angel Island, Palmtree Panic...

Well then maybe that game takes place in the old continuity.

Trust me, I'm a Highlander fan. I've learned how to juggle the concept of "selective continuity". XD

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Also, if Sonic Adventure 2 is to be believed, South Island (where Green Hill is) is located somewhere in the Pacific Ocean. Again, more proof that Sonic's Earth is completely separate from ours, even though they bear many similarities.

You know, I don't think I'd mind our earth and Sonics sharing a few cities. But I'm starting to think they're going overboard with this game though. More and more we have real life locations.

*sigh*

I miss the old colorful days. But I'll settle for just a good Sonic game. I can clamor for the olden colorful days after the Sonic series is assured to have it's mojo back.
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Yeah, so far the only levels we've seen of Unleashed are based off of real world places. In fact, I think they're the only things that the stages are gonna be based off of in this game.

On the bright side, at least some of them might be colourful, like Mykonos, Greece.

I think games like Sonic Chronicles are trying to make a balance between the brighter parts of Sonic's world (Green Hill) and the realistic aspects of it (Central City).

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Well then maybe that game takes place in the old continuity.

Trust me, I'm a Highlander fan. I've learned how to juggle the concept of "selective continuity". XD


Okay then, I'm supposing that Shadow and Rouge, and other post-Adventure characters in Chronicles won't have any knowledge of the events of the post-Adventure games, eh? The official site for Chronicles includes a list of character bios, with Shadow's biography right up there, even listing that Prof. Gerald created him 50 years ago. I'm not gonna argue with you about the continuity, but I just have a strong feeling that Chronicles might take place sometime after one of the Rivals games.
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A guy by the user name of NastCF has translated the Portuguese magazine article for Camp Sonic.

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Back to “Good Form”?

    Could Sonic Unleashed be the game fans have been waiting for so long? Maxi went to Japan to unveil the first hints for this comeback

    Could this be it? Could it be that after the descending spiral in which he sunk during the recent years, and had his debut on the PS3 and the Xbox 360 as one of the lowest points in his career, will Sonic be able to speed back into the success of his glory days? It’s still too early to know, but things seem to be going the right way…

    It was at the blue hedgehog’s own home, in Sega studios in Tokyo. that Maxi got the chance to see Sonic Unleashed in action. And all doubts and rumors have been cleared: this will in fact be a return to the so requested side scrolling perspective. But it will also be an adventure played in the more modern 3D third-person view. In the same game. And the same levels. Because action will alternate between 2d and 3d perspectives, automatically and pretty much frequently during the same level - according to Sonic Team, each section will have approximately 20 to 30 seconds. This variation could sound a tad weird, but by what we could see it seems to be implemented in a smooth and almost unnoticeable way, and in the shown examples the transition looks well done and the camera reacted flawlessly.

    Be it in 2 or 3d, it’s certain that the blue hedgehog’s speed won’t disappoint; this because eye-melting speed is constant, and even though we noticed some slowdowns, understandable, seeing as this version is still in a very pre-alpha phase, it seems to be well combined with the platforming and fighting elements, even reminding us of the Mega Drive (SEGA Genesis) classics. And as in those classics, players will have a plethora of alternate pathways to reach the end of the level, many of which you get there via sequences in which the player has to press the buttons that appear on the screen. And this is always with Sonic, since we can only play as other characters in minigames - here, Tails is the only one confirmed as of yet.

Sonic visits the real world

    Sonic Team really did their best in terms of Sonic Unleashed’s visuals, creating an universe that brings together both real elements and typical Sonic fantasy.

    “The idea was to create a Disney style world, because it’s realistic but it’s got a lot of fantasy, combining the two elements. That way, for example, human characters have Sonic’s cartoonish style and the background, even though very realistic, is very fantasy-like”, explains Yoshihisa Hashimoto, the game’s director. And so we can see Sonic visiting several real places, such as China, London, New York or the Greek island of Mykonos, all spawning a graphic level that’s pretty satisfying as of now.

    It’s true that Sonic’s still got a long way to go, but with his mind-blowing speed and the release scheduled for the end of the year, this could very well be the blue hedgehog’s return to fame. And Sonic Team states that there’s still another element, probably connected to the storyline, that should spice things up even more, so you can expect more news on the next MaxiConsolas.


Not much new here, but the translation is here for those who were curious as to what they were saying. At least now we have full confirmation that the Europe level is, specifically, London.
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Jul 3 2008, 05:18 PM


You're right, the games certainly do take place on Earth, but even though his Earth might share some of the places that exist on our Earth like Mykonos, Greece, or China, or New York, his Earth isn't like ours at all, no sir. There are still some differences. If Sonic Adventure 2 and Shadow the Hedgehog are of any indication, apparently, in the Sonic series, the President (one who isn't George Bush) lives in a White House that isn't in Washington at all, but rather is on the other side of the country. If I was to guess, probably somewhere in Nevada, or Utah, or possibly Arizona. And even then, the cities in that area aren't real cities (Central City, Westopolis), but are fictional.

Also, if Sonic Adventure 2 is to be believed, South Island (where Green Hill is) is located somewhere in the Pacific Ocean. Again, more proof that Sonic's Earth is completely separate from ours, even though they bear many similarities.

Ugh. It's like Zelda. Don't even TRY to make any sense of the sonic world. It'll just blow your brain.

And it being confirmed as London will probably mean that this game will spawn some other major cities.
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Ugh. It's like Zelda. Don't even TRY to make any sense of the sonic world. It'll just blow your brain.

Really now? I've been attempting to make some sense out of various aspects of the Sonic series for a long time, and so far my theories seem plausible. You say it'll blow your brain, how come I'm doing fine then? The only really big thing I can't seem to make some sense out of is the stuff revolving around Blaze, Eggman Nega, and Silver.
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Ah yes. Three LARGE mysteries that I hope will unfold in later games.

But, yes, I suppose your theories are quite polished. Maybe Morphius is still coherant. Maybe it ISN'T earth in previous games. I'm not trying to start an argument. That's just my opinion.
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Well, Sonic Adventure 2 and Shadow the Hedgehog both clearly show that it is Earth that they all live on. But like I myself, and Damien have both stated, it isn't the same Earth that we live on. Sonic's Earth just bears a lot of similarities to ours. They even share some of the same places. In Japan, Babylon Garden (Sonic Riders) is called the Hanging Gardens of Babylon. Beijing, China seems to exist in Sonic's world (Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games). And with Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games, I'm theorizing that Mario and Sonic exist in the same universe, so maybe the Mushroom Kingdom is on Earth too, just in a land far beyond the pipes.

And now, with Sonic Unleashed, it's even more proof that Sonic's Earth has some of the same places as ours.
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Interesting theory. I have another one. In Teen Titans, Jump City is on earth. A MADE UP place on the earth. Now if that happens, maybe it also means it IS on earth. A made up place on our earth. AND THE president thing? Maybe it's a different period of time with a different president.
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Oooookay, nobody brought up Teen Titans, especially considering the fact that this topic is about Sonic, but sure.

Given that this is a different president from George Bush, but let's not forget the fact that Sonic's Earth is different from ours. Plus, with Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games, the characters from the Mario series and the Sonic series attend the 2008 Summer Olympics. I get the strangest feeling that much of the Sonic series has taken place in one year, and that year is 2008.

So, that would mean that Shadow was created in 1958, and since Silver lives 200 years in the future, he lives in 2208. Also, let's consider all of the characters' known ages, and why they haven't really aged through the progress of the games. Now, Sonic Chronicles is supposed to take place two years after Sonic had last defeated Eggman, I'm guessing the year 2010 then. With that in mind, don't you think that all of the characters would age two years older?
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Oooookay, nobody brought up Teen Titans, especially considering the fact that this topic is about Sonic, but sure.

Given that this is a different president from George Bush, but let's not forget the fact that Sonic's Earth is different from ours. Plus, with Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games, the characters from the Mario series and the Sonic series attend the 2008 Summer Olympics. I get the strangest feeling that much of the Sonic series has taken place in one year, and that year is 2008.

So, that would mean that Shadow was created in 1958, and since Silver lives 200 years in the future, he lives in 2208. Also, let's consider all of the characters' known ages, and why they haven't really aged through the progress of the games. Now, Sonic Chronicles is supposed to take place two years after Sonic had last defeated Eggman, I'm guessing the year 2010 then. With that in mind, don't you think that all of the characters would age two years older?

I'm simply stating. Jump City is made up, but still on OUR earth. Maybe Westopilis, Mystic Ruins, Green Hill, all that jazz, is on OUR earth. Just made up places. On OUR earth. Gotham City. No REAL place named Gotham city, but it's still on OUR earth. So too, I believe, is Sonic.
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I'm simply stating. Jump City is made up, but still on OUR earth. Maybe Westopilis, Mystic Ruins, Green Hill, all that jazz, is on OUR earth. Just made up places. On OUR earth. Gotham City. No REAL place named Gotham city, but it's still on OUR earth. So too, I believe, is Sonic.

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Okay, I can't make any sense out of your statement whatsoever. Basically, what you're saying is that these fictional cities, these made up places actually exist on our Earth, and not in the land of fiction? C'mon, start talking sense.
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