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Article: Why BB and Raven
Topic Started: Aug 4 2006, 03:18 PM (1,213 Views)
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Don't have a clue why we are shipping BB/Raven? Then you are either a non-shipper or just another clueless BB/Raven shipper. In that case you need to read our second article which was written by one of our members, Lizard-man.

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Check out the article here, and don't forget to post your thoughts on the article on this thread.
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I already read it and I believed it was a fine article. Even more blunt on some things then me. XD

Basically I agree with everything LM has said. Straight and simple.

The only problem was a little bit of grammer trouble, some missing commas and the like, but other then that it was a solid article. Good work to LM.

We're both the baddest Mo'fos in the valley when it comes to pwning and backing up what we say. ^_~
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Very nice article LM, but in some ways it seemed that you were writing an article less about why you like BB/Rae and more about why you didn't like other 'ships. It was a well-thought-out article, but still...

I do have one complaint though: Lesbians are hot, and I will defy anybody who says so.

I'm also a semi-serious 'shipper of Kole/Terra. :wink:
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Well al, truth is you can defy it to the end of time. That doesn't make it any more credible. Besides. Can a perverted male be trusted to give an opinion on such a thing? LM kinda touched on that. >_>

I think it was more a combination of why he liked it and why he doesn't like others, but it was still good.
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Thanks guys, I was surprised it came out as well as it did. At first I was just putting my thoughts down. Then I started thinking I wanted it to go up here. Sorry about the grammar. I try my best to be professional without a spellchecker, so I proofread most of the stuff myself. I miss some things of course.

Well, you see I talked most of the time about other ships because unless you acknowledge that there were other choices out there it seems like you just pick it up because its the only one that works for everyone. Also I needed to explain WHY I'm with this pairing and not the others. Unless I do I have nothing much to talk about. I could go on and on listing Beastboy and Raven moments, but moments can be easily dismissed. Besides doing that is done by everyone. I believed the only real way I could explain why I ship this is couple to explain why I don't support other ships.

If Terra and Kole start revealing lesbian traits and start acting homosexual then I will not mind if they start kissing and I won't mind looking at fanfiction dealing with it. My beef is with non-canon gay ships. You can't say someone gay unless they reveal themselves as gay. Otherwise its slander and OOC. I already explained that in the article.

If you like looking at lesbians then I won't really care, since I feel nothing is really exotic or erotic or strange about it. And think about this AL, that's just two more girls that you will never get, because they aren't even attracted to your sex. You can ship the couple, but I can't take it seriously if people only like it because its erotic for them. I also can't take it seriously because the canon is really the only source that anyone can trust for a character's sexual orientation. Unless the authors mean for the characters to be gay then they are not gay.

I don't care if you think lesbians are hot, thats your opinion, and I do hope you can accept my apology for not thinking they are hot and just thinking they are normal ordinary people like anyone else. Seriously though, you think they're hot, I don't, that your opinion and I must respect it.

I'm happy you guys both at least thought it was well-thought-out. I like to keep my work looking perfessional, or somewhat looking professional.
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I wouldn't get them anyway--Terra and Kole don't exist.

'Sides, I don't seriously ship the couple. I just think it's hilarious.
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He meant in general al, but thats irrelevant.

I don't see what's so hilarious about it. Near as I know the two have never met in ANY form. In the comics Terra was dead before Kole arrived and Kole was then long dead before Terra 2 arrived. In the AS the two never met either. They've never met or had ANY interactions, so I don't see how it counts as a ship or COULD be taken seriously. O_o
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That was a really good article but I knew that already, i think... -thinks- yep i did but it was still great :worship:
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He meant in general al, but thats irrelevant.

I don't see what's so hilarious about it. Near as I know the two have never met in ANY form. In the comics Terra was dead before Kole arrived and Kole was then long dead before Terra 2 arrived. In the AS the two never met either. They've never met or had ANY interactions, so I don't see how it counts as a ship or COULD be taken seriously. O_o

You'll find, as I have, alot of ships these days can't be taken seriously.
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I already know that al. You don't have to reiterate that to me.

Trust me, I've been around long enough to see some REALLY ridiculous ships, when they were in their prime. So I know. But making up a ship from nowhere? XDDDDDD

Though sadly, thats where some of the stupidest ships come from. From nowhere, not even any moments. Or denial in certain cases, when there is plenty of evidence against the ship.

I can think of two of that last one right off the bat. >_>
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I nearly cried out with joy when I read this, Lizardman said many of my sentiments exactly. Also, for me the ships I view as the devils work and cannot stand are: SladexRae, Slade,Robin, you know the drill. *shudders*

My brain melts whenever I see them and I quickly clock back like 50 times. :scared:
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This article was great! Lizardman you did a very good job on this. I just can't express how awesome this is. Everything is so true and I agree with you on everything.

I totally agree with you on slash. I have nothing agasint homosexuals, I even have friends who are. But if there's no evidence then why suddenly ship them? It's just some fantasy for these hormonal people. Especially StarxRae! They're just friends! it's like saying that me and my best friend are suddenly lesbians because we hang out alot. You can have a close relationship with a person of the same sex without being homosexual.

There's also the SpeedyxAqualad slash and RobinxSlade. Two popular male slash shippings. I don't want to begin explaining how wrong this is. So I'll leave it there.

That one paticular reason " 'Robin' and 'Raven' are bird names so they belong together!" Makes me feel disppointed and mad. It's not a good enough reason.

I've meet some people who hate Starfire and ship RobxRae. But there are also BBxRae shippers who hate Terra. Character bashing is immature. People need to get over it and have a good reason to ship their pairing.

Now if only someone could write an article like yours on RonxHerm, it would be awesome. Actually RonxHerm is kind of like BBxRae. And HarryxHerm is kind of like RobxRae too. " 'Harry' and 'Hermione' begin with 'H' they belong together!" People have actually listed that reason. And the slash ships. Especially HarryxDraco >_<, I know we both agree that this ship is very wrong.

Anyway! Getting back to BBxRae. Overall this was a good article. ^_^

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Thats the thing Cat. The most ridiculous ships will have it's shippers come up with the most ridiculous reasons for it. Trust me, I've seen some of the wars for ships, and the sad part is that if you look at it as a non shipper, you cana see how ridiculous the one ship is.

Part of the reason for that is they are so low on evidence they will take what they can get, no matter how asinine the reasoning. and I by no means just mean RobxRae or RobinxSlade. There are other ships out there, like the one Cat listed, that are just asinine.

Example? SoraxRiku.

What. The. Dilly. Yo.

"ZOMFG! THEY CLOSE FRIENDS! Romance! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!111!!11" The kid is literally being set up with Kairi, but just because it's plainly established that he's good friends with Riku, he's suddenly a goddamn homosexual to some people. And it's always the girls. It's tough being a SoraxKairi shipper. To find your fanfiction, you have to wade through thousands of crap SoraxRiku fics. I swear to god there's a 10 to 1 ratio of SoraxRiku fics to SoraxKairi ones. It's beyond ridiculous.

Same deal with StarxRae.

Truthfully, it's lucky Lizard Man did such an article when he did. I've been thinking of doing a similar one myself, and while still professional, I would have been far less nice and pulled out any stop.

But back to ridiculous ships, they will happen. It's our job to just look at them, maybe laugh a little inside our head, but ultimately leave them to their own little world if we can. Because they are still humans and are generally nice people too. Ship prefrences should never be used as a reason to hate someone (though I've run across that too).

It's the ones who know their ship is ridiculous and hate other ships for it that cause the problems. That or immaturity. Sometimes both.

I've been in too many flame wars. @_@
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Dl, you can't compare Sora/Riku to Starfire/Raven.

Sora/Riku is a literal plague on humanity. I once went to the KH page on ff.net, and literally every story was "Sora loves Riku, but does Riku love Sora?" or "Sora's a new kid in town. Can the tough gangster boy Riku learn to love him?" or "RIKUS A VAMPIRE AND SORA LOVES HIM LAWLZ." And almost all of them involve buttsecks.

Starfire/Raven on the other hand isn't nearly as common. Go to ff.net looking for a BB/Rae story, and you won't have to wade through ten thousand "RAVENS A VAMPIRE AND SHE WANTS STARFIRE OMG," fics.

Also, I think AS Raven could be bi-curious. You never know.

EDIT: Dl, to most KH fangirls, all the characters are gay. Sora loves Riku, Squall loves Cloud...and Sephiroth...God, I won't even say it. I WILL not.

Food for thought.
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Ahh, I more or less meant it was asinine. I should have been clearer.

Sorry. It happens.

And yes, it is a literal plague on humanity. Hell, KH fangirls are a plague to humanity! I already know how they are. I swear, all the crap fanfiction for all that makes you want to just give up on your ship and call it a day, because with the ratio in there you're lucky if you can find ONE SoraxKairi fic every page or so.

But on StarxRae, it's still asinine. No it's not as common, but it's still asinine. And even animated Raven being bi-curious? Al, you need some of your hormones taken out. Seriously.
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