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For Honour and Glory RPG
Topic Started: Oct 25 2007, 08:23 PM (441 Views)
chadden
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I don't think we should use the "Shattered Alliance" name as that is specifically the name of the tale of the White War, and we are past that now.

I like Rudd's idea of having something vague, as that maintains the feeling of freedom we have in the RPG. It wouldn't make much sense to call it "Shattered Alliance" if everyone ended-up bestest friends at the end. And since we don't know how the RPG will end, I think that going with something vague is the best idea.
"Stand against me if you must, for of course you will. Conflict is just another part of this flawed reality. You need to cling to your concepts and purposes, your feeble honour and glory. None of it serves any purpose in the end. And the end draws close." - Krodalis Thaendil.

"It really is amazing; she killed Kelan Wealer, not that I am complaining, but then the order welcomed her as their new leader. It makes one wonder if I were to ram a blade down her throat, would the monks then follow my commands?" - Mordain Thaendil.

One of the Last Guardians. Suck it.
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Yup. Everyone always stresses how the RP is supposed to be about freedom and we don't want to be constrained, so why pick a constraining title that says "This is what the main plotline is."
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Lord Sunnycool
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It is the main plotline. Were it not for the shattered alliances, we wouldn't have any of the other plots.
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The main plotline is whatever we want to make it. It doesn't HAVE to be the shattered alliance, and no matter what people say I don't want to continuously be dealing with trying to fix the relationship...I mean we can only go so far with that before it gets boring. And just because that is what started it doesn't mean we name it after that. Star Wars wasn't named "Anakin Was Trained Too Late" just because that's what started everything.
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I still think that the shattered alliance is the plot everything is pivoting about - in one way or another. And Star Wars does have the main plot as its name in each movie. First of all - it is all about these wars in space (stars) and second of all - each episode has a fitting name. Lord of the Rings is precisely the same.
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Star Wars isn't a direct plot element, though, it's a vague generalization, which Shattered Alliances isn't.
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Yes - but that is because Star Wars is not just the name of the movies but of all of the franchise, universe and so on. If we follow that logic, we need the rpg to be called "For Honour and Glory RPG" - precisely as the title of this topic - and to me that sounds pathetic.
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Why not just call it "For Honor and Glory"?
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I wanted to kindly give it a special place within the For Honour And Glory-concept.
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How about.......

The War of Honour
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Should your charge falter under heavy resistence, roar your devotion in His name and amount whatever strength you have left at one enemy point and crush it utterly! Let the enemy feel your pain by turning their's into agony!

Should you lay beaten and dying on the field, laugh with pride for even in death our enemies will fear us, leave them with a scar that will haunt them till the time of their retribution!" - Chaplain Valorus

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Ariakas
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But there are so characters who do not care for honor, others ignore it or are totally unhonorable.
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Exactly a war on both sides of honour.

The war for the free world

The war of hope

The Dark war

The war for light

the war of light

the war of circumstance

the war of the liche

the war of the defiled

the war to end all wars

the end

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"Should you ever feel agony for the loss of your Brothers due to enemy guns, bear through it with a stern smile and let your enemy know that you will get into combat soon enough. His judgement cannot be avoided!

Should your charge falter under heavy resistence, roar your devotion in His name and amount whatever strength you have left at one enemy point and crush it utterly! Let the enemy feel your pain by turning their's into agony!

Should you lay beaten and dying on the field, laugh with pride for even in death our enemies will fear us, leave them with a scar that will haunt them till the time of their retribution!" - Chaplain Valorus

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Ariakas
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I did not get that list. Is it a list of suggestions?
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Yup yup
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"Should you ever feel agony for the loss of your Brothers due to enemy guns, bear through it with a stern smile and let your enemy know that you will get into combat soon enough. His judgement cannot be avoided!

Should your charge falter under heavy resistence, roar your devotion in His name and amount whatever strength you have left at one enemy point and crush it utterly! Let the enemy feel your pain by turning their's into agony!

Should you lay beaten and dying on the field, laugh with pride for even in death our enemies will fear us, leave them with a scar that will haunt them till the time of their retribution!" - Chaplain Valorus

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Ariakas
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You have many themes that I like and that I think is fitting, like Dark/Light. However the RPG is not about a single war.. so maybe not starting the name with that.
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The days of Darkness

The Loss of Hope
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"Should you ever feel agony for the loss of your Brothers due to enemy guns, bear through it with a stern smile and let your enemy know that you will get into combat soon enough. His judgement cannot be avoided!

Should your charge falter under heavy resistence, roar your devotion in His name and amount whatever strength you have left at one enemy point and crush it utterly! Let the enemy feel your pain by turning their's into agony!

Should you lay beaten and dying on the field, laugh with pride for even in death our enemies will fear us, leave them with a scar that will haunt them till the time of their retribution!" - Chaplain Valorus

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I like the days of Darkness. It has a nice ring to it, but doesn't pin the storyline to simply one thing.

A couple of suggestions myself, mainly trying to keep to the vague idea:

Between Darkness and Light

Tales of Hope and Despair

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Tales of Hope and Despair

Stand or Fall

I like these.
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Lord Sunnycool
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How about "Divide and Conquer"? I know it doesn't cling that well, but it is slightly less cliché. And anyways - that is exactly what happened.

Otherwise I have some quick suggestions:

Times of Trails
Glorious Conflict
The Defiled Decade
Reign of Shadow
Longer Dawn
Last Dusk
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I like that. You're talking about the Tower of Weissland, right?
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