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| chadden | Jun 16 2007, 05:29 PM Post #141 |
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Why are you always lashing out at Mordus? |
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"Stand against me if you must, for of course you will. Conflict is just another part of this flawed reality. You need to cling to your concepts and purposes, your feeble honour and glory. None of it serves any purpose in the end. And the end draws close." - Krodalis Thaendil. "It really is amazing; she killed Kelan Wealer, not that I am complaining, but then the order welcomed her as their new leader. It makes one wonder if I were to ram a blade down her throat, would the monks then follow my commands?" - Mordain Thaendil. One of the Last Guardians. Suck it. | |
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| Gorfang | Jun 16 2007, 05:34 PM Post #142 |
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While new members might see spammers high post counts and think spamming is ok, once they look at the rules of the forum they should know its not. Also, there are no new members for that to be a problem at the moment. And to be honest CC, Mordus might make mocking or sarcastic comments, but you act more like a spammer than he does. While he contributes to the forum and most discussions, all you seem to contribute is links to things you find on the net and think are funny, as well accusations against other members. |
![]() Anubis, IPU is dead, long live IPU! A-Team member. "If a loyal servant of Weissland is threatened, I will aid him to my dying breath, with every drop of my blood. There are older and more powerful things in the world that have faced me and underestimated my resolve, to their end." - Nathaniel Drakkon "For what is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger!" - Aeron Damphair, a Song of Ice and Fire. Visit the Drakkon Grimoire - The Collected, Completed Nathaniel Drakkon Fiction | |
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| Mordus | Jun 16 2007, 05:37 PM Post #143 |
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Because I'm so great ?
Too bad my insulting post was deleted. 'Twas most appropriate I have to say. To reiterate my point; why should you care about this forum CC, when all you do, to my knowledge, is complain? No one is making you stay. |
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| Ironfist | Jun 16 2007, 05:42 PM Post #144 |
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In spite of that, I'm gonna stay now, wiseass. And Off-Topic is another thing, all these topics in News & Info, that's what we're talking about. BTW, Mordus, no need to get defensive. I don't care if you run to your mommy about how the big boys hurt your feelings and you cut your wrists. Why do I complain all the time? Why, because there is no point in praising a forum! A well thought out complaint (I admit, some of mine aren't, but then again...) can do something good to the forum, while a load of praises only affects ego. |
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| Mordus | Jun 16 2007, 05:52 PM Post #145 |
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Again; why are you here if as you say you find nothing worthy of praise or attention on this forum? Also how stupid do you have to be to think I won't respond indignantly to an insult. |
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| Ironfist | Jun 16 2007, 06:01 PM Post #146 |
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:blink: You read my thoughts? Wow, I thought that's impossible... especially over the Internet... Too bad that you didn't do a very good job at it. Why am I here? For the discussions, mainly. Those ones not filled by your... mocking, sarcastic comments? It's interesting how those are accepted by nearly every member of the forum yet my... spam you called it?... opinion about you, and my opinion that you should be punished a bit harsher than "Bad, bad Mordus", is rejected by the same, overwhelming majority. |
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| Gorfang | Jun 16 2007, 06:08 PM Post #147 |
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Perhaps that should convince you that your comments are unfounded and badly thought out then chicken. You seem to delight in complaining when there is little to nothing to complain about. You're like a kid who refuses to stop scratching his chickenpox. |
![]() Anubis, IPU is dead, long live IPU! A-Team member. "If a loyal servant of Weissland is threatened, I will aid him to my dying breath, with every drop of my blood. There are older and more powerful things in the world that have faced me and underestimated my resolve, to their end." - Nathaniel Drakkon "For what is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger!" - Aeron Damphair, a Song of Ice and Fire. Visit the Drakkon Grimoire - The Collected, Completed Nathaniel Drakkon Fiction | |
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| Ironfist | Jun 16 2007, 06:23 PM Post #148 |
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Little to nothing to complain about? Oh, alright, must've forgotten about that part. Maybe I was right to do so? I'm like a kid who refuses to scratch his chickenpox! Aha, what a humorous pun here, dear audience! Laugh heartily, this here is Gorfang's Ultimate Pun of 1337ness! And they say I'm not funny. <_< Too bad that this statement is as unfounded as you claim my argument to be. |
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| Gorfang | Jun 16 2007, 06:34 PM Post #149 |
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Well, you might think there are things to complain about, strange that nobody else agrees. Where is all this spam then chicken? I've not seen any posts in the spam-pit for quite a while, nor even much in off topic. I've not seen HIC, Dylan or Cory Clam around posting for a while either. The only other problem the forum has is low activity, but activity isn't as low as some forums which still continue perfectly fine. The pun was intended, because you are like a simple child who just doesn't comprehend what is going on around him. You just can't see beyond your own nose. As for unfounded, you're just deluded. It is perfectly founded in the fact that almost every post you have made in this very topic has been argument and complaint, not to mention insulting other members. Perhaps you should grow up or shut up. |
![]() Anubis, IPU is dead, long live IPU! A-Team member. "If a loyal servant of Weissland is threatened, I will aid him to my dying breath, with every drop of my blood. There are older and more powerful things in the world that have faced me and underestimated my resolve, to their end." - Nathaniel Drakkon "For what is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger!" - Aeron Damphair, a Song of Ice and Fire. Visit the Drakkon Grimoire - The Collected, Completed Nathaniel Drakkon Fiction | |
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| Ironfist | Jun 16 2007, 06:43 PM Post #150 |
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1. If it was in the spam pit, I wouldn't care :blink: 2. Argument and complaint? You don't have to be a simple child, who is so deluded that you can't see beyond your own nose, to argue and complain. Complaining might help, an argument isn't negative. 3. I think I wasn't the first to insult... In my humble opinion, you just don't know what to respond to my arguments, therefore you just throw around random words and phrases to not look like somebody who just lost an argument because he can't respond anything to the actual argument. Perhaps you should no longer continue using cliché phrases like "shut up or grow up", or was it in the other way, because so far I only insulted someone in this argument who insulted me first, and only as many times as they did. Strange that no-one cares? Well, that doesn't mean I can't complain. |
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| Mordus | Jun 16 2007, 06:54 PM Post #151 |
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You could have made that clear before slagging the forum so as to assure us that there is indeed a point to you being here. As for my mocking attitude of most things, well thats just my outlook on the internet. You see I don't take everything I read on the internet to heart and frankly don't realy care. I think most people on this forum have come to accept that this is how I approach the forum and by and large mean no real offence when being mocking or sarcastic. If not, then tough. Also, contrary to your disjointed insults I'm adult enough to know that this won't go anywhere and so I will discontinue my involvement. Enjoy your rant. |
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| Gorfang | Jun 16 2007, 06:57 PM Post #152 |
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I like the way you attempt to dissuade me from arguing with you by claiming that I've lost. So I'll play down to your level so you can feel secure. 1. I'll call your attention to most of your posts which are spam and do not occur only in the spam pit. They consist of just a link with no comment by you. Unless the rules have changed such short posts are considered spam because they are never adding anything to the topic. 2. The fact remains that all you do is argue and complain, something which you don't deny. I pointed out that the two main problems brought up by this topic were spam and low activity. Spam has been cut down to a bare minimum and low activity isn't a big problem either. Perhaps you should read my arguments instead of claiming that I'm not reading yours. Your complaints have no merits. 3. Regardless of who insulted first, you have repeatedly insulted Mordus. You could have been the bigger man and not insulted anybody. I don't need to throw random words and phrases around to avoid looking like I've lost an argument, I've barely started. You've said nothing so far to disprove anything I've said. I've seen you do this in arguments before, you fail to disprove what others are saying, you cling to the same points again and again even when people have proven them invalid. And of course you can complain, this is a discussion. But just because you make a complaint does not mean you are instantly correct nor does it mean that we can't disagree with your complaints. |
![]() Anubis, IPU is dead, long live IPU! A-Team member. "If a loyal servant of Weissland is threatened, I will aid him to my dying breath, with every drop of my blood. There are older and more powerful things in the world that have faced me and underestimated my resolve, to their end." - Nathaniel Drakkon "For what is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger!" - Aeron Damphair, a Song of Ice and Fire. Visit the Drakkon Grimoire - The Collected, Completed Nathaniel Drakkon Fiction | |
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| Ironfist | Jun 16 2007, 07:16 PM Post #153 |
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1. A picture sometimes says more than a thousand words, remember? And if that's true, then not only I didn't post a short post and thus spam, but I actually made up a very long post B) Ok, that was a bit of a joke. Now to the point, they occur in the off topic too. But that is still the "not-so-serious" category. But I don't post them at all, or maybe very rarely, in other, more serious forums, so point 1 foiled. 2. I didn't complain about low activity, so that's out of the question (in my opinion, the activity isn't low at all, but then again...) Maybe you think spam was cut down to the bare minimum, but I don't. Maybe that's where the argument started, two different opinions. And look what it evolved to. And I'm not going to admit my complaints have no merits, until you either prove me wrong with a well thought out argument, or until an admin has his final say in the matter. You might say "but I cannot prove you wrong, because you are so thick" but it's just that it's not that easy to prove me wrong. I'm not thick automatically because of that. 3. Show me where I repeatedly insulted Mordus. I called him a wiseass, right after he called me bitch, but *skims through arguments* I can't see any other insults. You must have misinterpreted my posts or something. So you have barely started? Ok, we got through this, get to the main point then. If you think I said nothing to disprove anything you've said, then I'll say the same of you. Maybe I cling to the same points, but only to the effective ones, abandoning the others that don't work. Nice of you to say that I can complain, I thought for a moment I was going to be IP banned :rolleyes: But while it doesn't mean what you posted, it doesn't mean I can't keep up posting more arguments to back up my complaint, as long as they are acceptable in nature and are at least somewhat on-topic to the complaint, and nor does it mean that you have to reply with insult, mockery or just with sheer disrespect. After all, even though I posted up a drastic solution that targeted an apparently well-respected and honoured member (who I think of as a spammer, but that's my opinion), I started civilized and didn't insult anyone, and this remained until Mordus' reply with "Bitch" came, until I decided that this discussion ended up as a barbaric and uncivilized semi-flamefest prematurely. Since Mordus is out of this, I'm not gonna reply to his arguments unless one of you accuses me of losing, cowardice or something like that. <_< |
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| Gorfang | Jun 16 2007, 09:05 PM Post #154 |
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1. A picture might say a thousand words, but since these are pictures which you did not create, you can't claim that. I realise that you were joking there, but even if you posted the pictures and gave a brief statement of why you thought the picture was appropriate in the topic it would seem like you were contributing something worthwhile. 2. Once more you didn't read what I posted. I said that the two main problems mentioned in this topic were spam and low activity. I did not say that you complained about both, merely that those are the two problems which others have brought up. I then stated my opinions that neither are problems (or at least large ones) anymore and that your complaints about spam are IMO unnecessary. 3. Well, you started by complaining that your post got deleted but Mordus's bullshit wasn't. Technically you said bullsheet, but your intent was clear. Not a direct insult, but you indirectly said that what Mordus had posted was bullshit. So it does seem that you actually initiated the insults, or Mordus might have perceived it that way. He insulted you, but that post was deleted, so I can't remember what he said but I seem to remember it being a rather scathing remark, which prompted you to call Mordus a spammer and say he should be banned. He might consider that an insult if he doesn't consider himself a spammer. You also used the phrase "I have spoken." Not an insult, but certainly arrogant in light of you wanting to discuss your complaints. Perhaps if you hadn't said things like this people would have been more willing to discuss your complaints in a more civil manner. You then implied that Mordus is a spammer again. This was after a couple of comments from Alex and Chadden about post counts. Mordus then called you a bitch. You decided to say that there was no need for him to run to his mum, implying that he is a child and also saying he would cut his wrists. I took that as an insult myself. I have a friend who was clinically depressed and tried to take his own life. Admittedly he didn't try to cut his wrists, but its clear from your comments that you have a very low opinion of Mordus and human life in general. |
![]() Anubis, IPU is dead, long live IPU! A-Team member. "If a loyal servant of Weissland is threatened, I will aid him to my dying breath, with every drop of my blood. There are older and more powerful things in the world that have faced me and underestimated my resolve, to their end." - Nathaniel Drakkon "For what is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger!" - Aeron Damphair, a Song of Ice and Fire. Visit the Drakkon Grimoire - The Collected, Completed Nathaniel Drakkon Fiction | |
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| Ironfist | Jun 16 2007, 09:29 PM Post #155 |
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1. Okay, maybe that's true, but... yeah, I didn't create the pics, so why can't I say a picture is worth a thousand words? 2. I just merely tried to get this low activity out of the discussion. 3. First, saying that what someone posted is "bullsheet", is not an insult to the poster himself. That word was meant for his spam, alright, but I decided to post it after seeing a post in which there were a massive TWO!!! words. Not even a link to a picture. I'm gonna skip "I have spoken", because I didn't even consider it as anything serious, or something someone could include in a real argument. And as for my retort for "bitch", well, bad luck, maybe he should have not gone so defensive. There is a clear difference between claiming someone's posts are "bullsheet" and claiming that someone is a bitch? As for that suicide thing, I'm sorry for your friend, but with that I didn't mean suicide, I meant the emo-ness, which was just to explain how he went all little boy with his feeble insult. Not to mention I didn't even know of what happened to your friend until you just told us forumers Yes, I have a very low opinion of Mordus at the moment. No, I don't have a very low opinion of human life in general. 'Nuff said. Any more? |
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| Gorfang | Jun 16 2007, 10:05 PM Post #156 |
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1. I didn't mean that you can't say a picture is worth a thousand words, just that you were complaining about spam and those link posts you make on a regular basis could be considered spam according to the rules of the forum. I believe posts are supposed to be three or more words. Since the link is just one URL, it could be considered one word, or no words since you likely didn't type it in. It just comes across like you are not bothering. 2. Fair enough, I was just pointing out that I never claimed you were complaining about low activity, just that it was one of the two main problems brought up in this entire topic. Consider it out of this particular discussion then, unless someone else wants to comment on it. 3. As for the insults, you do seem to have given as good as you got, so why not leave it at that, especially since Mordus seems to have given up. And as for the suicide issue, I'll believe you when you say you were talking about "emo-ness" and not suicide, but it did come across that way, to me at least. |
![]() Anubis, IPU is dead, long live IPU! A-Team member. "If a loyal servant of Weissland is threatened, I will aid him to my dying breath, with every drop of my blood. There are older and more powerful things in the world that have faced me and underestimated my resolve, to their end." - Nathaniel Drakkon "For what is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger!" - Aeron Damphair, a Song of Ice and Fire. Visit the Drakkon Grimoire - The Collected, Completed Nathaniel Drakkon Fiction | |
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| Ironfist | Jun 17 2007, 08:45 AM Post #157 |
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1. I could suggest in the Suggestions forum then, that a picture should be exempt from the three words rule. But that's another discussion. 2. Since we seem kinda agreed on this too, let's leave it there. 3. Okay by me... well, by cutting one's wrists, I always mean the "emo-ness" just for your information, as it is exclusive for them. I take it as... argument finished? |
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| Alex | Jun 17 2007, 10:20 AM Post #158 |
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The News forum is not the place for bitching about each other just because you have differeng/biased opinions towards one another. No, the argument is finished. If you disagree, sort out your differences elsewhere - by PM, email, MSN or even the Spam Pit if you have to. Now, unless you have something relevant to say that relates to this topic, please do not say anything at all.
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| Gorfang | Jun 17 2007, 02:35 PM Post #159 |
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@CC: Agreed, argument finished. @Alex: Maybe you were not paying attention but we were having a serious discussion, and now that its complete I don't see a problem with airing such issues. This very topic is called "Issues we need to work out" and I find it very interesting that you don't think its relevant. |
![]() Anubis, IPU is dead, long live IPU! A-Team member. "If a loyal servant of Weissland is threatened, I will aid him to my dying breath, with every drop of my blood. There are older and more powerful things in the world that have faced me and underestimated my resolve, to their end." - Nathaniel Drakkon "For what is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger!" - Aeron Damphair, a Song of Ice and Fire. Visit the Drakkon Grimoire - The Collected, Completed Nathaniel Drakkon Fiction | |
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| Alex | Jun 17 2007, 07:49 PM Post #160 |
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Issues with one another and issues with the forum are different things entirely, but I see your point. Discussion over, as you say
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