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Who is better; Yep
Topic Started: Jun 26 2006, 07:15 PM (413 Views)
Imrahil
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Hey, i decided to make this topic so this section of the site can become more active.

These are debates, we choose two characters from LOTR in terms of a subject and we debate who we think is the best.

Let's say Gandalf and Éomer in terms of horseriding. some people would say that Gandalf is better because he is a Maiar and that he loved shadowfax like a friend. Others would say Éomer because of the blood of rohan and of the hours of training that he received.

I think it would be a good idea to start something similar to this. Let's say i start with:

Legolas or Beleg Cuthalion in terms of archery.

After a while we shall decide who wins between these two elves and decide who has had the best arguments so he can start another debate.

I hope people will like this. :ph43r:
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Well, I think it's close, but I think that Legolas is better.
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Master Adam
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Legolas, hands down
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You need arguments people!
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Well, based purely on Beleg's title, this is my argument.

Cuthalion is derived from the elvish cu thalion, meaning 'strongbow'. This either means that he was a great archer, or, more likely, that the device he used was strong and exceptionally deadly at close quarters. However, this may mean that it was not as accurate due to various factors such as strenth needed which will result in the bow shaking while aiming. We have much more firm accounts of Legolas archery, mainly his accuracy, and you need to hit before doing damage, and, from Tolkiens writing, we can gather that Legolas bow does alot of damage anyway. As a result, Legolas edges ahead of Beleg on his one.
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Ariakas
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Legolas was a great archer. I don't remember any of Beleg's deeds when it came to archery and I believe that what he was really good at was his tracking and wilderness skills.

Legolas however, he felled a fell beast with one shot. The question is however if Beleg could have done something similiar. I believe he could, Tolkien just never wrote about his kills.

And also Loter, I don't believe he got his second name, Cúthalion , because he used a strong/composite bow. I believe he got that name because of extraordinary archery-skills. No particular reasons for that, I just find it more logical.

I believe Beleg was a greater marksman and archer than Legolas. I don't have any real reasons. Still, I want tyo say again that I believe that Beleg's true skills was not within that of an archer, but that within an huntsman and ranger.

But the greater archery deed and shot was made by Bard. That, it is no doubt about.
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chocoman
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Well when legolas took down that mumakil i thougth he was the best by far.
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Berethor
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^_^ Peter Jackson's theatrics...that was never physically possible in the books, no matter how gay-I mean...how elvish the individual was. :lol:

We'll try this one, and this one will definitely get some of you going:

Who's a better warrior and captain overall?
Faramir or Boromir?

I've heard it said that Boromir was the greatest of the fellowship, the strongest that is. I don't doubt this fact, in the book is clearly gave him a rather large and muscular impression, even compared to Aragorn. He could probably break an orc's neck single handedly with his eyes closed. He was a very powerful warrior, and though he was eventually slain, he took many orcs with him and the only way he could be killed was by entire volleys of orcish arrows and crossbow bolts, in which case he still refused to die.

Faramir is the misunderstood younger brother, rumour has it that he killed dragons as a child. He is tall, and he is as close to Numenorean as a captain can come, purer of heart and mind than his older brother. He bravely fought at Osgiliath, taking many orcs with him until the rangers and soldiers about him gave way, and he was forced to retreat. With emotional matters with his father tearing at the edge of his mind, he is indeed very heroic to go to his almost certain death. He is one of the most famed archers in the south. His leadership skills are unmatched, even by the king of gondor, and his swordsmanship is pretty high as well.

My opinion? Boromir's stronger than Faramir, a more powerfully built man. Faramir's a better captain, easily inspiring and leading more effectively than Boromir. I think in the long run, Faramir is the better hero, as he is the true leader, where as Boromir works alone. It's like comparing Hektor to Achilles.
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I think Boromir is a good soldier and commander. But Faramir also has excellent commander skills. And is probably a more tactiful commander. Show many times, such as Osgiliath and Ithilien. Boromir would be more likely to take risks, like the time he and Faramir and a Gondorion soldier held off the 9, whilst thier soldiers could tear down the central bridge in Osgiliath. They're both inspiring commanders, thier men always performed excellently under their leadership, espicially combined. But becuase they got along, regardless of Denethor's nagging towards Faramir, made them good commanders, and perform well. Boromir is more the warrior whilst Faramir is the better commander. They were both Very brave, bold and heroic. And they both proved it many times.

But Faramir just stands out more as a leader, not to say Boromir isn't a excellent commander =P
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chocoman
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Boromir has to be beter cause his father preferd farimir to die than boromir.
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^_^ Denethor wasn't exactly in his right mind. B)
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Beleg was the greatest archer ever. Far greater in skill than legolas.
chadden, Oct 15 2008
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HIC, I demand that you bludgeon yourself with a rock until your mental status returns to the level of a rapist who calls back to apologise! Your use of elaborate language and words is making me uneasy. Although, I am somewhat relieved to see that your punctuation remains shit-based.
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Ariakas
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Can't you base your statements on anything? <_<
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