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Did the Balrog have wings??
Topic Started: Nov 13 2005, 08:55 PM (492 Views)
Ariakas
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First of all, we need a much better definition of the answer to come up against the question?
What do you mean with wings? What do you define "wings" as?

And we don't know wether the Balrog "survived" the fall from the bridge anyway? Gandalf never said "he survived the fall" did he? (And yes I know that he was not dead in normal sense). But the verb "survived" is weird to use in this matter since we don't know the true nature of the life and spirit of a maia... we don't know what someone has to do to kill a maia... we don't know what Gandalf did to kill the Balrog...

In fact, I'm not sure if even Tolkien knew this
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A sure thing is, they can't fly. But Gandalf "died", and The Balrog and him ended up the same place on that cliff fighting, so it must have died in some way, to get to the same place as him... B)
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Gandalf didn't die to get to Zirak-zigil
chadden, Oct 15 2008
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HIC, I demand that you bludgeon yourself with a rock until your mental status returns to the level of a rapist who calls back to apologise! Your use of elaborate language and words is making me uneasy. Although, I am somewhat relieved to see that your punctuation remains shit-based.
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What happened then? Please explain... :blink:
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The Balrog fled after its fire was extinguished. It ran to Zirak-zigil, where its fires returned. He fought Gandalf, and it died after Gandalf rammed Glamdring in its heart. Gandalf died of exhaustion.
chadden, Oct 15 2008
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HIC, I demand that you bludgeon yourself with a rock until your mental status returns to the level of a rapist who calls back to apologise! Your use of elaborate language and words is making me uneasy. Although, I am somewhat relieved to see that your punctuation remains shit-based.
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I see, and then he was in soem mysterious world for ages together with Shadow Faxe, and returned as Gandalf The White... Right? :blink:
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Yes - that's right - in a way
chadden, Oct 15 2008
12:16 PM
HIC, I demand that you bludgeon yourself with a rock until your mental status returns to the level of a rapist who calls back to apologise! Your use of elaborate language and words is making me uneasy. Although, I am somewhat relieved to see that your punctuation remains shit-based.
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Ariakas
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I think it's much more complex then simply "its fire was extinguished" and "its fire returned" since it's not exactly earthly-stuff we are talking about.

But still, please answer my request AlexH... what exactly are you asking about?
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Ariakas
Nov 14 2005, 05:39 PM
First of all, we need a much better definition of the answer to come up against the question?
What do you mean with wings? What do you define "wings" as?

And we don't know wether the Balrog "survived" the fall from the bridge anyway? Gandalf never said "he survived the fall" did he? (And yes I know that he was not dead in normal sense). But the verb "survived" is weird to use in this matter since we don't know the true nature of the life and spirit of a maia... we don't know what someone has to do to kill a maia... we don't know what Gandalf did to kill the Balrog...

In fact, I'm not sure if even Tolkien knew this

It's flame was extinguished when they fell into the Miromere.
chadden, Oct 15 2008
12:16 PM
HIC, I demand that you bludgeon yourself with a rock until your mental status returns to the level of a rapist who calls back to apologise! Your use of elaborate language and words is making me uneasy. Although, I am somewhat relieved to see that your punctuation remains shit-based.
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Ariakas
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But what is really "its flames" do you think?

Anyway, I wanted a bit more clearer headline? What do you mean with your headline-question...
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You know, it is a Fire daemon.


"Do you think the Balrog can fly? Support your arguement with evidence"
chadden, Oct 15 2008
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HIC, I demand that you bludgeon yourself with a rock until your mental status returns to the level of a rapist who calls back to apologise! Your use of elaborate language and words is making me uneasy. Although, I am somewhat relieved to see that your punctuation remains shit-based.
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Ariakas
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Oh I see... well I believe it's written that some of the Balrogs flied in the Silmarillion... but I don't remember where...

I believe they had wings... if they wanted too. They were spirits/maia/ainu so I except they all toke different looks... I believed they did not look like each others
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Isn't it flew, not flied?

Anyway cool, I always thought they were just some kind of big nasty monsters :lol:
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They are big nasty monsters! Big, nasty, firey, maiary monster thingys!
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well in the books it fell down with gandalf. If it had wings it woulod just simply fly back up! (thats what made the film a bit stoopid!)
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Ariakas
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øh... Acussing the film of being the stupid because of that scene makes YOUR statement either stupid, unless you have not seen Two Towers...

Have you seen the opening scene in the Two Towers... does it looks like it's easy to fly in that chasm?... don't think so
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Yes, especially when you have an old man stabbing you with a sword :lol:
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lol, a magical sword i might add. A Balrogs bane too.
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Ariakas
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Not necessarily a Balrog's bane? Why do you say that? We know that the orcs feared and remembered that sword, but nothing about that particular sword and the balrogs, or do we?
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We know nothing of that. But it was a Sword of the Elves, and Gandalf is also a Maiar...
chadden, Oct 15 2008
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HIC, I demand that you bludgeon yourself with a rock until your mental status returns to the level of a rapist who calls back to apologise! Your use of elaborate language and words is making me uneasy. Although, I am somewhat relieved to see that your punctuation remains shit-based.
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