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Gothmog; Man, Uruk, Nazgul or Orc?
Topic Started: Nov 13 2005, 08:53 PM (372 Views)
Alex
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In the book, all we know about Gothmog is that he is second in command to the Witch-King.

Therefore, do you think he could of been a Nazgul??

PJ gave Gothmog the guise of an Orc so that he could include the character,but what type of creature do you think Gothmog originally was?

I don't find it likely would of been a Nazgul, but I find it that he could of been an Uruk-hai of Mordor, or maybe even an Olog-hai. he may even have been one of the Black Núménoreans - whom do you think?
chadden, Oct 15 2008
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HIC, I demand that you bludgeon yourself with a rock until your mental status returns to the level of a rapist who calls back to apologise! Your use of elaborate language and words is making me uneasy. Although, I am somewhat relieved to see that your punctuation remains shit-based.
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Well, although Gothmog was actually an Orc, there was also a Gothmog who was a servant of Melkhor. The [size=7] COMPLETE TOLKEIN COMPANION!!!! [/size] describes he/she/it as....
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See description of BALROG


Hmm... :D :lol:
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He was either a descendant of the Black Númenóreans, like the Mouth of Sauron, or an actual Black Númenórean.
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Alex
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Nov 13 2005, 10:19 PM
He was either a descendant of the Black Númenóreans, like the Mouth of Sauron, or an actual Black Númenórean.

This is what I thought.


Calaros: I see what you are talking abouot, but Gothmog was the name of the mightiest Balrog ever.
chadden, Oct 15 2008
12:16 PM
HIC, I demand that you bludgeon yourself with a rock until your mental status returns to the level of a rapist who calls back to apologise! Your use of elaborate language and words is making me uneasy. Although, I am somewhat relieved to see that your punctuation remains shit-based.
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I always wondered as it doesnt say. I thought he could of been a very important orc but now as you brought this up it makes you think.lol. I'm not sure.
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I think he's just an orc. A very skilled one.
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Nov 14 2005, 08:29 AM
I think he's just an orc. A very skilled one.

Yeah just a Orc :P
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like the Mouth of Sauron


lol, he is a Black Numeneroun(not a descendant). He's like 1000 years old or something, alive due to unnatural means.
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Alex
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We can't be sure of that, but it seems probable
chadden, Oct 15 2008
12:16 PM
HIC, I demand that you bludgeon yourself with a rock until your mental status returns to the level of a rapist who calls back to apologise! Your use of elaborate language and words is making me uneasy. Although, I am somewhat relieved to see that your punctuation remains shit-based.
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but it seems probable


If it was probable that would mean he would be a wraith since men are not granted that long life no matter what happens... I think he was either a some kind of a half-orc-thingy-super-uruk, a ringwraith (why on earth not) or an ancecstor of the evil men (though I don't believe that)
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Nov 13 2005, 09:19 PM
He was either a descendant of the Black Númenóreans, like the Mouth of Sauron, or an actual Black Númenórean.

I agree with James. And since James is the Lieutenant of Morgul (a.k.a. Gothmog) I will belive him :lol:
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Calaros
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God, any evil person remaining undescribed or on vaguely described could have been a ringwraith! None are named! With the exception of the Easterling guy, whos name I forget
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Locky I assure you The Mouth of Sauron is a descendant of the Black Númenóreans.
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Nov 14 2005, 10:10 PM
Locky I assure you The Mouth of Sauron is a descendant of the Black Númenóreans.

Of course he is! Only a fool would say he is not! He IS a Black Númenórean
chadden, Oct 15 2008
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HIC, I demand that you bludgeon yourself with a rock until your mental status returns to the level of a rapist who calls back to apologise! Your use of elaborate language and words is making me uneasy. Although, I am somewhat relieved to see that your punctuation remains shit-based.
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That Ringwraith is Khamul, but I didn't get your point Calaros
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Ariakas
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Could you prove that AlexH :P?

Seriously, I believe the guy was a Ringwraith
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Damnit, Gothmog is an orc, not a Nuz'gul. Tolkien would've stated if the creature was one of the nine.
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WTF is a nuz'gul locky?
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Why should he have stated that he was one of the nine...? Why? Any reasons?
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Nov 15 2005, 07:03 PM
Could you prove that AlexH :P?


http://www.tuckborough.net/othermen.html#Mouth

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The Mouth of Sauron was of the race of Black Numenoreans - Men who were corrupted by Sauron in the Second Age. It is said that the Mouth of Sauron "entered the service of the Dark Tower when it first rose again"


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Movie Note:
In Peter Jackson's film of The Lord of the Rings, Gothmog is portrayed as an Orc. In the book, it is not stated whether Gothmog was an Orc or a Nazgul or some other being.



http://www.tuckborough.net/otherbeings.html#Gothmog
chadden, Oct 15 2008
12:16 PM
HIC, I demand that you bludgeon yourself with a rock until your mental status returns to the level of a rapist who calls back to apologise! Your use of elaborate language and words is making me uneasy. Although, I am somewhat relieved to see that your punctuation remains shit-based.
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