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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 13 2005, 08:53 PM (372 Views) | |
| Alex | Nov 13 2005, 08:53 PM Post #1 |
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In the book, all we know about Gothmog is that he is second in command to the Witch-King. Therefore, do you think he could of been a Nazgul?? PJ gave Gothmog the guise of an Orc so that he could include the character,but what type of creature do you think Gothmog originally was? I don't find it likely would of been a Nazgul, but I find it that he could of been an Uruk-hai of Mordor, or maybe even an Olog-hai. he may even have been one of the Black Núménoreans - whom do you think? |
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| Calaros | Nov 13 2005, 09:27 PM Post #2 |
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Well, although Gothmog was actually an Orc, there was also a Gothmog who was a servant of Melkhor. The [size=7] COMPLETE TOLKEIN COMPANION!!!! [/size] describes he/she/it as....
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| Lieutenant Of Morgul | Nov 13 2005, 10:19 PM Post #3 |
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He was either a descendant of the Black Númenóreans, like the Mouth of Sauron, or an actual Black Númenórean. |
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| Alex | Nov 13 2005, 10:31 PM Post #4 |
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This is what I thought. Calaros: I see what you are talking abouot, but Gothmog was the name of the mightiest Balrog ever. |
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| Kirby | Nov 14 2005, 05:19 AM Post #5 |
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I always wondered as it doesnt say. I thought he could of been a very important orc but now as you brought this up it makes you think.lol. I'm not sure. |
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| Lachlan | Nov 14 2005, 08:29 AM Post #6 |
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I think he's just an orc. A very skilled one. |
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| King of Rohan | Nov 14 2005, 11:49 AM Post #7 |
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Yeah just a Orc
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| Lachlan | Nov 14 2005, 11:51 AM Post #8 |
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lol, he is a Black Numeneroun(not a descendant). He's like 1000 years old or something, alive due to unnatural means. |
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| Alex | Nov 14 2005, 05:36 PM Post #9 |
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We can't be sure of that, but it seems probable |
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| Ariakas | Nov 14 2005, 05:57 PM Post #10 |
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If it was probable that would mean he would be a wraith since men are not granted that long life no matter what happens... I think he was either a some kind of a half-orc-thingy-super-uruk, a ringwraith (why on earth not) or an ancecstor of the evil men (though I don't believe that) |
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| Lord Sunnycool | Nov 14 2005, 06:29 PM Post #11 |
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I agree with James. And since James is the Lieutenant of Morgul (a.k.a. Gothmog) I will belive him
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| Calaros | Nov 14 2005, 10:00 PM Post #12 |
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God, any evil person remaining undescribed or on vaguely described could have been a ringwraith! None are named! With the exception of the Easterling guy, whos name I forget |
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| Lieutenant Of Morgul | Nov 14 2005, 10:10 PM Post #13 |
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Locky I assure you The Mouth of Sauron is a descendant of the Black Númenóreans. |
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| Alex | Nov 14 2005, 10:14 PM Post #14 |
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Of course he is! Only a fool would say he is not! He IS a Black Númenórean |
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| Lord Sunnycool | Nov 15 2005, 06:10 PM Post #15 |
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That Ringwraith is Khamul, but I didn't get your point Calaros |
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| Ariakas | Nov 15 2005, 07:03 PM Post #16 |
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Could you prove that AlexH :P? Seriously, I believe the guy was a Ringwraith |
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| Lachlan | Nov 16 2005, 08:58 AM Post #17 |
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Damnit, Gothmog is an orc, not a Nuz'gul. Tolkien would've stated if the creature was one of the nine. |
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| Lieutenant Of Morgul | Nov 16 2005, 05:13 PM Post #18 |
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WTF is a nuz'gul locky? |
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| Ariakas | Nov 16 2005, 06:28 PM Post #19 |
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Why should he have stated that he was one of the nine...? Why? Any reasons? |
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| Alex | Nov 16 2005, 07:19 PM Post #20 |
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http://www.tuckborough.net/othermen.html#Mouth
http://www.tuckborough.net/otherbeings.html#Gothmog |
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