Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]
Welcome to Survival of the Fittest, a RPing board loosely based off of Koshun Takami's Battle Royale, with its own unique plot and spin on the 'deadly game'. We've been around quite a while, and are now in our thirteenth year, so don't worry about us going anywhere any time soon!

If you're a newcomer and interested in joining, then please make sure you check out the rules. You may also want to read the FAQ, introduce yourself and stop by the chat to meet some of our members. If you're still not quite sure where to start, then we have a great New Member's Guide with a lot of useful information about getting going. Don't hesitate to PM a member of staff (they have purple usernames) if you have any questions about SOTF and how to get started!

Let the games begin!

Username:   Password:
Add Reply
Mass Effect Mafia Fallout Thread
Topic Started: Jun 22 2017, 06:39 PM (1,356 Views)
decoy73
Member Avatar
Winner
[ *  *  *  *  *  * ]
The night actions

Night 1
Town
  • MK Kilmarnock - Commute
  • RC - Protect Deamon
  • Randomness - Investigate to Zetsu
  • Zetsu - Investigate MK Kilmarnock (nullified due to commute), Frogue (Town)
  • Grim Wolf - Block Frogue (No effect - no action to block)

Mafia
  • VoltTurtle - Eliminate Deamon (nullified due to RC’s protection)
  • Inge - Block MK Kilmarnock (nullified due to commute)

Other
  • Empress Plush - Voluntarily eliminated, no replacement
  • VysePresident - Voluntarily eliminated, no replacement (tentative move - VoltTurtle)

Night 2
Town
  • Yugikun - Eliminate Prim
  • RC - Protect Toxie
  • Zetsu - Eliminate Kermit
  • Grim Wolf - Block MK Kilmarnock (No effect - no action to block)

Mafia
  • VoltTurtle - Eliminate RC
  • Inge - Block Grim Wolf (No effect - Grim’s role block was on no action)

Night 3
Town
  • Yugikun - Eliminate Inge
  • Zetsu - Save Yugi
  • Randomness - Kill to Flare
  • Flare - Eliminate Grim Wolf
  • Grim Wolf - Block VoltTurtle

Mafia
  • VoltTurtle - Eliminate Zetsu (Blocked by Grim Wolf)
  • Inge - Block Yugikun

Night 4
Town
  • Yugikun - Eliminate Inge
  • Zetsu - Block Deamon (No effect - no action to block)

Mafia
  • Inge - Eliminate Toxie
  • Inge - Block Yugikun (Successful)

Night 5
Town
  • Yugikun - Eliminate Deamon
  • Zetsu - Save Yugikun

Mafia
  • Brackie - Eliminate Zetsu


Just to note, the universal backup would have either taken the place of the cop or the vig. I flipped a coin, and Yugi got to be vig.
Female #16: Jaime Schanbacher; Status: ACTIVE 0
Female #42: Sabrina Luz; Status: ACTIVE 0


V5 Characters


V4 Characters


Survivor: The Cursed Islands


Mass Effect Mafia - PLAY AND WIN

SOTF Survivor 2 - PLAY AND WIN
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Kermit
Member Avatar
eEeEEEeEEEeeEeeeee
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Quote:
 
Zetsu - Eliminate Kermit


wait what?
"Kermit you are the guy in the horror movie that finds a book bound in human skin and decides to read out loud what is inside for fun" - some mean lady named Ruggahissy

i make art i think????


Sadly kermit looked at a mariavel. It was so sad... such a sad mariavel... like him... he only waned a normal life... was that too much to ask? was it?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Brackie
Member Avatar
personification of adhd
[ *  *  *  *  *  * ]
I have a lot of sleep-addled and barely coherent thoughts to say about how this game went down, mostly to do with how the game was played rather than the actual setup (although every scum safeclaim being a Townie was kind of a big giveaway but that's a minor thing so I digress).

Look, I get being excited to play Mafia and nail scum, I really do. But there's enthusiastic and then there's STRANGLING THE GAME TO DEATH WITH YOUR HUNDREDS OF POSTS. This isn't just a personal bugbear, I feel it's something that's actively harming the games. I touched on this briefly back in Day 2 but if your first day has several thousand posts, it effectively ices out half the lurkers from the discussion because they have no time to read and catch up (as was what happened to me even though I was scum and not really reading anyway, but my point still remains) and hands complete control of the game to a small handful of people, which in a game of 20+ people is a very bad move. What happens when they're all town and Mafia kills them all? Not only do the town become reliant on them to provide discussion and move the game along when it really should be /everybody/, the lurkers aren't given room to breathe in the first 2-3 days because every time someone chimes in with a post they're immediately read because they have only 10% of the posts that you do. This is an actively discouraging move to make in a game where it's really easy to get knocked off for misdemeanors. I know in the current meta it's essential to analyze everything and provide reads on command for every single post but it needs to happen in a way that doesn't lend itself to the game being spearheaded by a select few people. Because once those people are gone, poof, the game is dead, as is what happened in this game.

Town was extremely lucky that the ones posting the several hundred posts were actually town, but what if scum was among them? What if after zetsu died they then took control of the game? Or better yet, what about what actually happened this game and the last remaining person who posted several hundred times on the first day dies and the game falls into a coma? It's not just a town safety thing, it's a game health thing. What would have happened if frogue didn't take the reigns on the final day? I probably could have slipped a few days further in even though I'm being actively scummy.

I'm not saying don't post at all or don't provide reads. I'm just saying learn brevity or learn to get all your points across in one post, and then let other people contribute to the discussion rather than having it amongst the 2-3 people who are online all the time. Mafia is a democracy, not an oligarchy.

[/tired rant]
--

That being said, everything else I thought was pretty good! Apart from the safeclaim mishap I thought the flavour was pretty good and it was pretty well-balanced considering the size of the game and the mafia itself.
Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image
Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image

I can't sing but I wrote you a song

Wrong notes but the melody's so clear

When I'm lost, I'm still close to gold

cause I found my treasure in you
Online Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
MurderWeasel
Member Avatar
You've been counting stars, now you're counting on me
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
@Maddie: I haven't really figured balance yet--I just like to start stuff off with positive notes and saw some solutions to common issues that I liked! I'll give full setup thoughts later but I do think this skewed notably town. That said, I think your role PM (if it's as quoted) actually explicitly says your kills are blockable, making "Hitman" just a term for designated kill role (which is something I use too). That actually weakens scum compared to a floating kill in terms of balance, as an overall observation.
V7:
Juliette Sargent drawn by Mimi and Ryuki
Alton Gerow drawn by Mimi
Lavender Ripley drawn by Mimi
Phillip Olivares drawn by Ryuki
Library Vee
Misty Browder
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
VoltTurtle
Member Avatar
The girl who dreams on the back of a giant space turtle.
[ *  *  *  *  *  * ]
MurderWeasel
Jun 22 2017, 09:52 PM
@Maddie: I haven't really figured balance yet--I just like to start stuff off with positive notes and saw some solutions to common issues that I liked! I'll give full setup thoughts later but I do think this skewed notably town. That said, I think your role PM (if it's as quoted) actually explicitly says your kills are blockable, making "Hitman" just a term for designated kill role (which is something I use too). That actually weakens scum compared to a floating kill in terms of balance, as an overall observation.
WHICH MAKES IT EVEN WORSE
Turtle's Signature
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
VysePresident
Member Avatar
Long-winded, meticulous, & thoughtful. Mostly long-winded though.
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Just want to apologize again for replacing out. I had a lot of fun with the game, and I'm amused at how stuck I got on Murder early in the game. I've chatted a bit about my reads with a few others and think I did okay outside of Murder, but come endgame, I was really confused. Points to Brackie for playing an extremely Townie game as Scum.

@Turtle - For what it's worth, I think you did pretty well despite being given a crappy hand. You slightly overthought stuff a couple of times, but honestly? You played me so hard for most of Day #1.

Constructive criticism is always welcome! Feel free to send me a PM if you have any pointers or feedback you'd like to share!

Character #1: Boy #37 Ian Williams - Now with 55% less self-insert.
Designated Weapon: Polaroid Instant Camera With Film (Enough for 8 photographs)

Past - | 1 | 2 | (Current thread - Birds of a Feather)
Pregame - None
Island - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | (Final Thread - Glass
)
Character #2: Boy #66 Chase Rodriguez - Adopted from Pippin.
Designated Weapon: Silver Pill Box Containing Three Cyanide Capsules

Past - None
Pregame - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | (Last seen in - Diversions)
Island - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | (Final Thread - Drawing to an End)



(Relationships Planning Thread #Pi)
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Inge
Member Avatar
Leader
[ *  *  * ]
This game was not fun. It was heavily skewed Town and was pretty demoralising, specially once the claims came out.

Secondly, the game was weirdly personal for the first half and made it extremely uncomfortable to play.
V6

V7

I do let's plays on my youtube channel here.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
VoltTurtle
Member Avatar
The girl who dreams on the back of a giant space turtle.
[ *  *  *  *  *  * ]
VysePresident
Jun 22 2017, 09:58 PM
@Turtle - For what it's worth, I think you did pretty well despite being given a crappy hand. You slightly overthought stuff a couple of times, but honestly? You played me so hard for most of Day #1.

I had a solid plan to cast suspicion on the actual members of town (my read list was the start of that) but then Penelope got rolled and I was sad inside and had to work on that and not mafia so... yeah.
Turtle's Signature
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Kermit
Member Avatar
eEeEEEeEEEeeEeeeee
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Quote:
 
STRANGLING THE GAME TO DEATH WITH YOUR HUNDREDS OF POSTS.]


Posted Image
"Kermit you are the guy in the horror movie that finds a book bound in human skin and decides to read out loud what is inside for fun" - some mean lady named Ruggahissy

i make art i think????


Sadly kermit looked at a mariavel. It was so sad... such a sad mariavel... like him... he only waned a normal life... was that too much to ask? was it?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Kermit
Member Avatar
eEeEEEeEEEeeEeeeee
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Kermit's official list of wacky formatting and memeposts (most of which are mine): Part 1

"Kermit you are the guy in the horror movie that finds a book bound in human skin and decides to read out loud what is inside for fun" - some mean lady named Ruggahissy

i make art i think????


Sadly kermit looked at a mariavel. It was so sad... such a sad mariavel... like him... he only waned a normal life... was that too much to ask? was it?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Flare
Member Avatar
*insert dance song here*
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
I kind of fell off this game at a certain point since I was doing the Mafia Championship for part of it, so that's my bad. Still, I do agree that there was a big gap in activity levels between players and that's just bad in general.

Also, I'll bring it up again like I did in the game thread; I personally hate hate hate games that allow role PM quoting. The generally agreed upon idea behind Mafia is for the scum to use deceptive reasoning and actions to try and fool the town, while the the town uses their deduction skills and reading of past situations and actions to decipher who's lying. Letting people quote their roles pretty much throws this out the window, as you can see by how this game became a discussion of "Would decoy word it THAT way?" and how accurate our hits on scum were after we all just mass-claimed and blew the game open.

IDK, maybe some people like playing Mafia that way. I sure don't.
V5 Characters:

Jack McDonald is a SELF-INSERT YAY.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
VysePresident
Member Avatar
Long-winded, meticulous, & thoughtful. Mostly long-winded though.
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Turtle
 
VysePresident
Jun 22 2017, 09:58 PM
@Turtle - For what it's worth, I think you did pretty well despite being given a crappy hand. You slightly overthought stuff a couple of times, but honestly? You played me so hard for most of Day #1.

I had a solid plan to cast suspicion on the actual members of town (my read list was the start of that) but then Penelope got rolled and I was sad inside and had to work on that and not mafia so... yeah.


Yeah, I was sorry to see you go, but it's not like I could blame you. Mafia is just a game when it comes down to it.

Hope you take care of yourself.
Constructive criticism is always welcome! Feel free to send me a PM if you have any pointers or feedback you'd like to share!

Character #1: Boy #37 Ian Williams - Now with 55% less self-insert.
Designated Weapon: Polaroid Instant Camera With Film (Enough for 8 photographs)

Past - | 1 | 2 | (Current thread - Birds of a Feather)
Pregame - None
Island - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | (Final Thread - Glass
)
Character #2: Boy #66 Chase Rodriguez - Adopted from Pippin.
Designated Weapon: Silver Pill Box Containing Three Cyanide Capsules

Past - None
Pregame - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | (Last seen in - Diversions)
Island - | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | (Final Thread - Drawing to an End)



(Relationships Planning Thread #Pi)
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
MK Kilmarnock
Member Avatar
Hate, hate, HATE!!!
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Super unfun game but I place only 50% of the blame on Decoy.
V6 Tributes

Spoilers, Ricky didn't win V5

Things We Say
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
MK Kilmarnock
Member Avatar
Hate, hate, HATE!!!
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Flare
Jun 22 2017, 10:27 PM
I kind of fell off this game at a certain point since I was doing the Mafia Championship for part of it, so that's my bad. Still, I do agree that there was a big gap in activity levels between players and that's just bad in general.

Also, I'll bring it up again like I did in the game thread; I personally hate hate hate games that allow role PM quoting. The generally agreed upon idea behind Mafia is for the scum to use deceptive reasoning and actions to try and fool the town, while the the town uses their deduction skills and reading of past situations and actions to decipher who's lying. Letting people quote their roles pretty much throws this out the window, as you can see by how this game became a discussion of "Would decoy word it THAT way?" and how accurate our hits on scum were after we all just mass-claimed and blew the game open.

IDK, maybe some people like playing Mafia that way. I sure don't.
Also yep. As soon as I saw this was allowed I was determined to break the game over my knee and demonstrate WHY THE FUCK THIS IS NOT ALLOWED.
V6 Tributes

Spoilers, Ricky didn't win V5

Things We Say
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Flare
Member Avatar
*insert dance song here*
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Honestly if someone tries to make it legal in a future game we should agree as a board to just cut out all the fluff and start the game off with a massclaim.
V5 Characters:

Jack McDonald is a SELF-INSERT YAY.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)
ZetaBoards - Free Forum Hosting
Join the millions that use us for their forum communities. Create your own forum today.
Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · Mafia · Next Topic »
Add Reply